An ancient haplogroup E from Italy


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Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:00 am
Ungrouped in the Italy FTDNA Project there is
N92574 Marcucci Italy E1b1b1
13 24 14 10 18-19 11 12 10 13 11 29 15 6-10 11 11 25 14 20 31 16-16-16-17

Interesting is his DYS459=6-10, not documented elsewhere. The values of DYS459 in hg E are above all 9-9, rarely 9-10 and more 8-9 and 7-9, and someone should think that 6-10 could be done to a multistep mutation from 9-10. But I found on SMGF and put on ySearch the Italian Mirabelli (7CPTR), who has DYS459=6-9 and they are closely related. Then we should think to many mutations in DYS459a: mutation rate 0.000523 and Marcucci also in DYS459b: mutation rate 0.001525.

The values of Mirabelli, which isn’t possible to charge on ySearch, are:

13 24 14 10 18-18.2 11 13 11 13 11 29 15 6-9 11 11 25 14 20 31 15.3-16-16-17 11 13 19-22 15 11 10 13 12 12 12 12 20 13 17 11 28 18

Posts: 2205
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:50 am
There are also Marcelli (ySearch CAJZT):
13 24 14 10 17.2-20 11 12 11 13 11 30 15 6-9 11 11 26 14 20 31 15.3-16-16-17 11 13 19-22 15 11 10 13 12 12 12 12 20 13 17 11 28 18

and Gudgel (ySearch 5HXNP):
13 24 14 10 17.2-20 11 13 11 13 11 30 15 6-9 11 11 25 14 20 31 14.3-15-17-18 10 12 19-22 15 12 10 12 13 12 12 12 20 13 16 11 29 18

and the discourse becomes European.
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YDNA:
E
MtDNA:
U5A1
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:12 pm
178692 mcdonald Italy E1b1a

12 21 15 11 18-18 11 12 11 13 11 31 15 8-10 11 11 0 14 21 26 14-14-16-17 10 11 19-21 15 13 17 0 32-36 0 11

The actual surname is Anastacio and this is the y-dna of Albert Anastasia

http://www.gambino.com/bio/albertanastasia.htm

I am friends with his grand-daughter, the y-dna sample was taken from her father whose name had been changed
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:46 am
http://vacreeper.com/appalachian-histor ... plogroup-e
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