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Distinguishing the co-ancestries of haplogroup-G SRootsi

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:59 pm
by MJost
I am reposting this information that I showed in WorldFamilies forumn where I used Ken's newest version of his Generation 111T Spreadsheet using the latest STR mutation rates (Ave 0.3%) by MarkoH.

MJost
Author=JeanL
Would you mind doing the same calculations in all the P15+(G2a+) haplotypes found in the latest study published about Haplogroup G.

The haplotypes are found on Supplementary Table-3.

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/suppinfo/ejhg201286s1.html


Author=MJost
Ok, here they are. I removed Hts with dual, missing, or obvious errors (ie -9) STR alleles in the spread sheet.

Modified KenN Gen111T using
Distinguishing the co-ancestries of haplogroup G
Siiri Rootsi Etal
http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop ... 286s1.html
15 marker study using 15 Markers.

G-P15 and P16


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=107 G-P16 GB coal= 208.3 5,207.5 GB= 221.3 5,532.5

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 398.9 9,972.1

G-P15 and L497


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=62 G-L497 GB coal= 83.3 2,081.8 GB= 94.5 2,361.6

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 275.0 6,874.2



G-P15 and L91


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=29 G-L91 GB coal= 78.4 1,959.0 GB= 101.0 2,524.5

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 304.6 7,614.7



G-P15 and M285


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=17 G-M285 GB coal= 171.0 4,274.5 GB= 251.9 6,296.8

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 395.7 9,891.7


G-P15 and PM377


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=23 G-M377 GB coal= 70.3 1,758.4 GB= 83.5 2,086.3

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 389.0 9,725.0

G-P15 and M406

YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=35 G-M406 GB coal= 143.0 3,574.7 GB= 183.5 4,587.7

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 419.4 10,484.6



G-P15 and M426


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=4 G-M426 GB coal= 4.6 115.4 GB= 6.2 153.8

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 302.8 7,570.9



G-P15 and M485


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=4 G-M485 GB coal= 81.5 2,037.9 GB= 104.6 2,614.6

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 413.5 10,337.3

G-P15 and G-M527


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=30 G-M527 GB coal= 89.4 2,235.2 GB= 116.5 2,912.0

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 273.9 6,846.4


G-P15 and P20


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=7 G-P20 GB coal= 150.7 3,766.5 GB= 228.5 5,712.6

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 426.0 10,651.0


G-P15 and P303


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=58 G-P303 GB coal= 142.3 3,558.1 GB= 172.3 4,306.4

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 294.4 7,360.7


G-P15 and Page19


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=12 G-Page19 GB coal= 91.8 2,294.2 GB= 112.8 2,819.7

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 396.1 9,902.2


G-P15 and U1


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=118 G-U1 GB coal= 126.0 3,150.2 GB= 149.5 3,738.1

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 276.4 6,909.8



AND Just for Fun: G-P15 and R1b-L21


YrsPerGen* Count AGE Generations YBP Founder Generations YBP
25 N=15 G-P15 GA coal= 199.9 4,998.2 GA= 269.0 6,726.2

25 N=648 R-L21 GB coal= 105.0 2,624.0 GB= 113.7 2,843.4

TMRCA Founder
25 GAB= 935.4 23,385.5

MJost





I also posted this shortly after:
I was in the mode of moving data so I thought I would help JeanL and just compile the data available and run it. I didnt realize that there was that many subclades. To sum up the G2a coalescence generations and ages, the list is below.

You mentioned the period of G2 but there is a huge amount of Caucasus HT's in the oldest P15 and P16 which would be Eneolithic/Bronze ages in Middle East: 4500 to 3300 BC? 1.5K back to founder suggests a very small, if any, growth but around 5K Ybp must have had substantial growth in the Caucasus after first 60 generations or so. After that a SNP mutation occurs on an average of every 11 generations or 275 years. ...


G-P15 Founder GA= 269 6,726
G-P16 GB coal= 208 5,208
G-P15 GA coal= 200 4,998
G-M285 GB coal= 171 4,275
G-P20 GB coal= 151 3,767
G-M406 GB coal= 143 3,575
G-M406 GB coal= 143 3,575
G-U1 GB coal= 126 3,150
R-L21 GB coal= 105 2,624
G-Page19 GB coal= 92 2,294
G-M527 GB coal= 89 2,235
G-L497 GB coal= 83 2,082
G-M485 GB coal= 82 2,038
G-L91 GB coal= 78 1,959
G-M377 GB coal= 70 1,758