R-U152-Z192-PF6652


Posts: 2348
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:38 pm
Would you be ready to believe that these two haplotypes, of the mainly Sardinian cluster of R-U152-Z192-PF6652, the first from France and the second from Switzerland, with 71 mutations out of 111 markers, are separated only from 4400 years, when also the usual calculation (454 x 71) : 222 x 30 years would give that age, when we know that all that should be multiplied at least for a 2.5 factor?

285324 Boucher BOUCHER, Cathelin (b.~1620, Chaix)>Jean (b.~1650) France R-BY3631
11 24 14 11 11-15 12 12 11 13 12 30 17 9-10 11 11 26 14 19 29 16-16-16-17 10 11 18-21 16 15 20 17 34-43 11 12 11 9 15-16 8 10 11 8 10 10 12 21-23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 15 11 11 12 11 34 15 9 16 12 26 26 19 12 11 14 12 10 9 13 12 10 11 12 30 12 14 24 13 10 10 20 15 18 14 24 18 12 15 24 12 23 18 11 14 17 9 12 11
194748 Probst Rudolf Probst 1597 Luzern,Sw>Bartel d.Kandel,Pfalz Switzerland R-PF6652
13 24 14 11 11-15 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 8-10 11 11 21 15 20 29 15-15-15-16 12 10 19-23 15 15 18 18 26-38 12 12 11 9 15-16 8 10 10 8 13 10 12 22-23 16 10 12 11 16 8 12 22 20 14 12 11 13 11 11 12 12 36 15 9 16 12 25 26 19 10 11 12 12 11 9 12 12 10 11 11 30 12 13 24 13 9 10 23 15 18 13 24 16 12 16 25 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11

Posts: 2348
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:31 pm
Of course the FTDNA Project is wrong and 285324 Boucher is put from YFull tree in an independent subclade of R-U152, R-BY3851, but a little changes about what I said, because the separation between these two subclades is always 4400 years as to YFull.

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