Comparing Chromo2 Y-DNA Results

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R-DF41
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U5a2c3a
PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:26 pm
I was trying to figure out how to make use of my Chromo2 Y-DNA data, and it occurred to me that it might be good if I could compare my results with those of someone who is S116+/P312+ but L21- in order to eliminate all the clutter upstream of S116/P312. Fortunately, Jacques Beaugrand, who is U152+, posted his Chromo2 positives in the U152 subforum here at molgen.

I compared his to mine the old-fashioned way, by printing them out and eyeballing them, SNP-by-SNP, without benefit of a computer program or utility. I might have overlooked something, but I tried to be meticulous and careful.

I am R1b-S524 (S116>S145>S521>S524), FTDNA Equivalent: R1b-DF41 (P312>L21>DF13>DF41).

Here are the SNPs for which I am positive that Jacques does not have among his positives (of course, S145=L21, S524=DF41, S461=Z290 and S836=CTS2501):

CTS2569 (PF2661)
CTS3316
CTS6058
CTS7206
CTS8221 (Z2542)
PF2592
PF2619 (F1285)
PF2626 (F1416)
PF5980 (F653)
PF6055 (CTS8311)
S1415
S1416
S1417
S145 (L21)
S19739
S27730
S461 (Z290)
S4888
S5025
S524 (DF41)
S836 (CTS2501)
S839
S8587
S9041
S9189
Z2032
Z2069

I figure those all must be downstream of S116/P312, but I do not know if any of them is downstream of DF41 and of use to me or anyone else.

Maybe this will be helpful to some of you.

Jacques' results are posted here: http://eng.molgen.org/viewtopic.php?f=121&p=18976#p18976
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YDNA:
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:28 pm
I mentioned above that I had compared my Chromo2 y-dna positives to those of Jacques Beaugrand, who is S28+/U152+, in order to eliminate all the stuff up to and including S116/P312.

Here is the list of Chromo2 SNPs I share in common with Jacques, all or most of which should be upstream of and including S116/P312. It is possible that there is a SNP between S116/P312, L21 and U152 that we share with Jacques, but pursuing something like that is not what I am interested in. I just wanted to eliminate all the shared SNPs to get at a set I could compare with the results of other L21+ and especially DF41+ men without having to go through the whole list of Chromo2 positives again and again and again.

I did my comparison without the aid of a computer program or utility. I just eyeballed the results and compared them SNP-by-SNP. I could have made an error or omitted something, so you may want to double check my work.

I have dubbed this list the S116/P312 Chromo2 Reference Sequence.

S116/P312 Chromo2 Reference Sequence
Chromo2 Y-DNA SNPs Upstream of and Including S116/P312


CTS10008+, CTS10149+, CTS11150+, CTS11226+, CTS11468+, CTS11575+, CTS11948+, CTS11991+, CTS12057+, CTS12633+, CTS12773+, CTS1738+, CTS2134+, CTS2254+, CTS2480+, CTS2664+, CTS3229+, CTS3315+, CTS3358+, CTS3654+, CTS3818+, CTS3844+, CTS4293+, CTS4437+, CTS4740+, CTS4944+, CTS5139(+), CTS5248+, CTS543+, CTS6327+, CTS6376+, CTS6383+, CTS6445+, CTS7301+, CTS7604+, CTS7659+, CTS7922+, CTS7941+, CTS8627+, CTS8728+, CTS9556+, CTS9760+, F1794+, L1002+, L1013+, L1053+, L1084+, L1098+, L1105+, L1118+, L1123+, L1129+, L1130+, L1137+, L1143+, L1145+, L1150+, L1179+, L1220+, L132+, L1345+, L1350+, L1352+, L265+, L278+, L320+, L352+, L438+, L440+, L468+, L470+, L479+, L498+, L508+, L543+, L58+, L604+, L741+, L752+, L757+, L768+, L773+, L822+, L82+, L875+, L882+, L969+, M213+, M235+, M294+, M299+, M415+, M42+, M523+, M526+, M74+, P128+, P131+, P135+, P139+, P140+, P141+, P142+, P143+, P151+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P163+, P224+, P225+, P226+, P229+, P230+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P236+, P239+, P242+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P282+, P284+, P285+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, PAGE081+, PAGE083+, PF1030+, PF1067+, PF1081+, PF1252+, PF1253+, PF1416+, PF1695+, PF1911+, PF256+, PF2590+, PF2615+, PF2617+, PF2621+, PF2622+, PF2624+, PF2629+, PF2651+, PF2653+, PF2655+, PF2658+, PF2660+, PF2677+, PF2679+, PF2683+, PF2684+, PF2685+, PF2688+, PF2690+, PF2700+, PF2702+, PF2704+, PF2709+, PF2716+, PF2718+, PF2722+, PF2734+, PF2736+, PF2737+, PF2739+, PF2742+, PF2747+, PF2748+, PF2760+, PF2762+, PF2775+, PF3495+, PF3500+, PF5459+, PF5461+, PF5480+, PF5495+, PF5857+, PF5861+, PF5865+, PF5869+, PF5870+, PF5872+, PF5873+, PF5885+, PF5887+, PF5893+, PF5898+, PF5908+, PF5912+, PF5914+, PF5917+, PF5918+, PF5923+, PF5927+, PF5936+, PF5940+, PF5941+, PF5945+, PF5949+, PF5953+, PF5957+, PF5958+, PF5964+, PF5966+, PF5977+, PF5981+, PF5982+, PF6016+, PF6040+, PF6047+, PF6056+, PF6063+, PF6065+, PF6079+, PF6082+, PF6114+, PF6115+, PF6116+, PF6129+, PF6136+, PF6143+, PF6145+, PF6242+, PF6246+, PF6249+, PF6252+, PF6258+, PF6263+, PF6265+, PF6267+, PF6269+, PF626+, PF6271+, PF6272+, PF6399+, PF6409+, PF6410+, PF6419+, PF6429+, PF6430+, PF6432+, PF6434+, PF6435+, PF643+, PF6443+, PF6451+, PF6463+, PF6467+, PF6469+, PF6471+, PF6475+, PF6481+, PF6484+, PF6487+, PF6495+, PF6497+, PF6506+, PF6507+, PF6524+, PF6528+, PF653+, PF6541+, PF679+, PF733+, PF744+, PF825+, PF834+, PF869+, PF948+, S10738+, S11330+, S1159+, S11638+, S116+, S12547(+), S128+, S138+, S1572+, S16059+, S163(+),S1984(+), S19862(+), S1+, S2003+, S2017+, S20246+, S20315+, S26361+, S26903+, S26911+, S27544+, S27668+, S349+, S3509+, S351+, S3848+, S3+, S4+, S6378+, S8709+, S9158+, SRY10831(+), V102+, V104+, V126+, V168+, V186+, V187+, V221+, V226+, V231+, V241+, V29+, V52+, V9+, YSC0167+, YSC0186+, YSC0203+, YSC0227+, YSC1297+, Z1244+
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YDNA:
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:33 pm
Moving on past S116/P312, Keith Wheeler and I have been comparing our Chromo2 results by email. Keith is S521+/DF13+ but negative for all the thus-far-known SNPs below it. That enabled us to create a reference sequence of everything upstream of and including DF13.

Here it is, in case anyone might find it useful to see what he has downstream of S521/DF13 by comparing his Chromo2 positives to this list:

Chromo2 Y-DNA SNPs Upstream of and Including S521/DF13
(Note: S521/DF13 is not included in the list, but Keith Wheeler and I have tested positive for it with FTDNA.)


CTS10008+, CTS10149+, CTS11150+, CTS11226+, CTS11468+, CTS11575+, CTS11948+, CTS11991+, CTS12057+, CTS12633+, CTS12773+, CTS1738+, CTS2134+, CTS2254+, CTS2480+, CTS2569+, CTS2664+, CTS3229+, CTS3315+, CTS3316+, CTS3358+, CTS3654+, CTS3818+, CTS3844+, CTS4293+, CTS4437+, CTS4740+, CTS4944+, CTS5139(+), CTS5248+, CTS543+, CTS6058+, CTS6327+, CTS6376+, CTS6383+, CTS6445+, CTS7206+, CTS7301+, CTS7604+, CTS7659+, CTS7922+, CTS7941+, CTS8221+, CTS8627+, CTS8728+, CTS9556+, CTS9760+, F1794+, L1002+, L1013+, L1053+, L1084+, L1098+, L1105+, L1118+, L1123+, L1129+, L1130+, L1137+, L1143+, L1145+, L1150+, L1179+, L1220+, L132+, L1345+, L1350+, L1352+, L265+, L278+, L320+, L352+, L438+, L440+, L468+, L470+, L479+, L498+, L508+, L543+, L58+, L604+, L741+, L752+, L757+, L768+, L773+, L822+, L82+, L875+, L882+, L969+, M213+, M235+, M294+, M299+, M415+, M42+, M523+, M526+, M74+, P128+, P131+, P135+, P139+, P140+, P141+, P142+, P143+, P151+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P163+, P224+, P225+, P226+, P229+, P230+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P236+, P239+, P242+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P282+, P284+, P285+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P305+, P310+, PAGE081+, PAGE083+, PF1030+, PF1067+, PF1081+, PF1252+, PF1253+, PF1416+, PF1695+, PF1911+, PF256+, PF2590+, PF2592+, PF2615+, PF2617+, PF2619+, PF2621+, PF2622+, PF2624+, PF2626+, PF2629+, PF2651+, PF2653+, PF2655+, PF2658+, PF2660+, PF2677+, PF2679+, PF2683+, PF2684+, PF2685+, PF2688+, PF2690+, PF2700+, PF2702+, PF2704+, PF2709+, PF2716+, PF2718+, PF2722+, PF2734+, PF2736+, PF2737+, PF2739+, PF2742+, PF2747+, PF2748+, PF2760+, PF2762+, PF2775+, PF3495+, PF3500+, PF5459+, PF5461+, PF5480+, PF5495+, PF5857+, PF5861+, PF5865+, PF5869+, PF5870+, PF5872+, PF5873+, PF5885+, PF5887+, PF5893+, PF5898+, PF5908+, PF5912+, PF5914+, PF5917+, PF5918+, PF5923+, PF5927+, PF5936+, PF5940+, PF5941+, PF5945+, PF5949+, PF5953+, PF5957+, PF5958+, PF5964+, PF5966+, PF5977+, PF5980+, PF5981+, PF5982+, PF6016+, PF6040+, PF6047+, PF6055+, PF6056+, PF6063+, PF6065+, PF6079+, PF6082+, PF6114+, PF6115+, PF6116+, PF6129+, PF6136+, PF6143+, PF6145+, PF6242+, PF6246+, PF6249+, PF6252+, PF6258+, PF6263+, PF6265+, PF6267+, PF6269+, PF626+, PF6271+, PF6272+, PF6399+, PF6409+, PF6410+, PF6419+, PF6429+, PF6430+, PF6432+, PF6434+, PF6435+, PF643+, PF6443+, PF6451+, PF6463+, PF6467+, PF6469+, PF6471+, PF6475+, PF6481+, PF6484+, PF6487+, PF6495+, PF6497+, PF6506+, PF6507+, PF6524+, PF6528+, PF653+, PF6541+, PF679+, PF733+, PF744+, PF825+, PF834+, PF869+, PF948+, S10738+, S11330+, S1159+, S11638+, S116+, S12547(+), S128+, S138+, S145+, S1572+, S16059+, S163(+),S1984(+), S19862(+), S1+, S2003+, S2017+, S20246+, S20315+, S26361+, S26903+, S26911+, S27544+, S27668+, S349+, S3509+, S351+, S3848+, S3+, S461+, S4888+, S4+, S6378+, S8235+, S8709+, S9041+, S9158+, S959+, SRY10831(+), V102+, V104+, V126+, V168+, V186+, V187+, V221+, V226+, V231+, V241+, V29+, V52+, V9+, YSC0167+, YSC0186+, YSC0203+, YSC0227+, YSC1297+, Z1244+

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:57 pm
When I compared my Chromo2 results to yours posted at WF I found that you have these SNPs that I dont.Most of my SNPs are also in your results.There are 30 different but they are all accounted for except these.
S 1415
S 1416
S 1417
S 5025
S 839
S 8587
Z 2032
Z 2069

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:20 am
dartraighe wrote:When I compared my Chromo2 results to yours posted at WF I found that you have these SNPs that I dont.Most of my SNPs are also in your results.There are 30 different but they are all accounted for except these.
S 1415
S 1416
S 1417
S 5025
S 839
S 8587
Z 2032
Z 2069



I think that some of these SNPs could be downstream of DF41.

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