J-M410 subclades and clusters overview

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:53 pm
preview/unfinished v1.3 Update Jan. 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
a) added SNPs known or predicted Z2221+ L24-
b) added possible SNP split between M410 and L26 by CTS7683 etc. (comparison of N112628 with 14919 and 177694) - PF2631 status unclear
c) added results for a second PF4993+ result. PF5058 moved from approx. P279 to approx. L581. A1 Geno2 result ordered. (Thanks Bonnie for the unreliable SNP correction: my error).

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:54 pm
v1.3 Update 7 Feb. 2013:
a) added SNPs known or predicted Z2221+ L24-, Cluster *H is Z2220+
b) added possible SNP split between M410 and L26 by CTS7683 etc. (comparison of N112628 with 14919 and 177694) - PF2631 status unclear
c) added results for a second PF4993+ result. PF5058 moved from approx. P279 to approx. L581. split between PF5007 and PF4993 (by N96297). Position of L581 remains unclear. (Thanks Bonnie for the unreliable SNP correction: my error).
d) A1 Geno2 result ordered. L198 is Z2229-, Cluster *I is Z2227+

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:59 pm
preview/unfinished v1.4a Update Feb. 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
a) new split below L26: N17486 is positive for PF5116, PF5125 and the following SNPs are not reported: PF5119, PF5123, PF5127, PF5138

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DNA/Admixture Central Europe (Alps, Tyrol, Dolomites, Raetia); Y-DNA J2a-L1064, J2a-L210, R1a-M17, R1b-U106 (L48-); mtDNA J1b1b, J1c1d, U5a2b2, U5b1b1. Projects : J2-M172, J2a-PF5197, Alpine DNA, ISOGG Wiki
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:13 pm
preview/unfinished v1.4b Update Feb. 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
a) new split below L26: N17486 is positive for PF5116, PF5125 and the following SNPs are not reported: PF5119, PF5123, PF5127, PF5138
b) PF4499+ is not reported in some samples: 51341 (L210), 23148 (L70), N17486 (P329.2) and also not in all J2b samples: N42743 => seems unreliable

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:51 am
preview/unfinished c v1.4 Update Feb. 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
a) new split below L26: N17486 is positive for PF5116, PF5125 and the following SNPs are not reported: PF5119, PF5123, PF5127, PF5138
b) PF4499+ is not reported in some samples: 51341 (L210), 23148 (L70), N17486 (P329.2) and also not in all J2b samples: N42743 => seems unreliable
c) N22333 of cluster *G defines a new clade sub of L26: F292
d) added new results kit N76290 (Z2397 > PF5169 > PF5177). By using 1000 Genomes comparison (NA20884, NA21090) further refining of probable clades.

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DNA/Admixture Central Europe (Alps, Tyrol, Dolomites, Raetia); Y-DNA J2a-L1064, J2a-L210, R1a-M17, R1b-U106 (L48-); mtDNA J1b1b, J1c1d, U5a2b2, U5b1b1. Projects : J2-M172, J2a-PF5197, Alpine DNA, ISOGG Wiki
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:51 am
preview/unfinished d v1.4 Update March 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
a) new split below L26: N17486 is positive for PF5116, PF5125 and the following SNPs are not reported: PF5119, PF5123, PF5127, PF5138
b) PF4499+ is not reported in some samples: 51341 (L210), 23148 (L70), N17486 (P329.2) and also not in all J2b samples: N42743 => seems unreliable
c) N22333 of cluster *G defines a new clade sub of L26: F292
d) added new results kit N76290 (Z2397 > PF5169 > PF5177). By using 1000 Genomes comparison (NA20884, NA21090) further refining of probable clades.
e) Geno2 results for 229942 and confirmation by N113379: A1 is still L26*
f) 91610 (in *E PF5116+) is Z2227- Z2229-

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:28 pm
preview/unfinished d v1.4 Update March 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
g) PGP141 (sequence results by JaG) shows probably the following SNP positions must be rechecked and/or are unreliable from Geno 2.0 results: Z2394, L776, L777/YSC0000248, PF7421

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:39 pm
preview/unfinished e v1.4 Update April 2013 (waiting for confirmation):
a) new split below L26: N17486 is positive for PF5116, PF5125 and the following SNPs are not reported: PF5119, PF5123, PF5127, PF5138
b) PF4499+ is not reported in some samples: 51341 (L210), 23148 (L70), N17486 (P329.2) and also not in all J2b samples: N42743 => seems unreliable
c) N22333 of cluster *G defines a new clade sub of L26: F292
d) added new results kit N76290 (Z2397 > PF5169 > PF5177). By using 1000 Genomes comparison (NA20884, NA21090) further refining of probable clades.
e) Geno2 results for 229942 and confirmation by N113379: A1 is still L26*
f) 91610 (in *E PF5116+) is Z2227- Z2229-
g) by PGP141 sequence results (provided by JaG) the following SNP positions where rechecked: Z2394, L776, L777/YSC0000248, PF7421
h) 270132 under J2a-M410 is PF4610+ and (new) CTS10721+
i) 268280 is J2a-M319 (M319+ not detected by Geno 2.0 but by 23andMe) and CTS1489-

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DNA/Admixture Central Europe (Alps, Tyrol, Dolomites, Raetia); Y-DNA J2a-L1064, J2a-L210, R1a-M17, R1b-U106 (L48-); mtDNA J1b1b, J1c1d, U5a2b2, U5b1b1. Projects : J2-M172, J2a-PF5197, Alpine DNA, ISOGG Wiki
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:01 am
tree sub of L24 (courtesy by Людмила Рябченко - Ludmila Ryabchenko, L24 Project supporter):
http://stkh.ru/SNP-Tree%20J2-L24-25_080413.jpg
DNA/Admixture Central Europe (Alps, Tyrol, Dolomites, Raetia); Y-DNA J2a-L1064, J2a-L210, R1a-M17, R1b-U106 (L48-); mtDNA J1b1b, J1c1d, U5a2b2, U5b1b1. Projects : J2-M172, J2a-PF5197, Alpine DNA, ISOGG Wiki
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:10 pm
tree sub of M67 reconstructed by using Project and Geno2 data: J2a-M67-CTS3261_N62009_Ison, J2a-M67-CTS3261-YSC0000292_230305_Magamadov, J2a-M67-CTS3261-Z365_N10172_Anonychuk, J2a-M67-L210_252114_Berry, J2a-M67-L210_29875_Ross, J2a-M67-L210-Z482_51341_Lewkowicz, J2a-M67-L210-Z482_N32818_Friedman, J2a-M67-Z467_139708_Frank, J2a-M67-M92-PF7404_222662_Espino, J2a-M67-M92-Z515_174923_Miller, J2a-M67-Z500-PF7394_21636_Piotrowski

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