H5a1 analysis of fully sequenced mtDNA


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YDNA:
R1a1a1b2a1
MtDNA:
H15a1
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:19 am
I analyzed all fully sequenced mtDNAs with the haplogroup H5a1:
http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/09/ ... -h5a1.html
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YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:19 pm
Then, which conclusions? H5 and subclades is overwhelmingly Italian, even though probably Behar thinks it is Basque in its origin. Hope that this theory isn’t a flop like the other of HV4a… Basque, clearly late subclades of the HV4 Italian. I have to study more carefully the thing, anyway also Basque, then European, is good for me. Or hadn’t hg. H to come from Middle East?

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Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:59 pm

YDNA:
R1a1a1b2a1
MtDNA:
H15a1
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:01 am
Gioiello wrote:Then, which conclusions? H5 and subclades is overwhelmingly Italian, even though probably Behar thinks it is Basque in its origin. Hope that this theory isn’t a flop like the other of HV4a… Basque, clearly late subclades of the HV4 Italian. I have to study more carefully the thing, anyway also Basque, then European, is good for me. Or hadn’t hg. H to come from Middle East?


I think it is from the Middle East or Caucasus. I updated my thoughts here:
viewtopic.php?f=158&t=620
http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/09/ ... -h5_6.html

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:12 pm
Palisto wrote:I think it is from the Middle East or Caucasus. I updated my thoughts here:
viewtopic.php?f=158&t=620
http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2012/09/ ... -h5_6.html


This is posted by ChrisR from Innsbruck 2012:

DNA in Forensics 2012 @ Innsbruck: big news for Y-DNA!

The history of slavs in the light of Y chromosome and mtDNA variability
Mielnik - Sikorska M, Daca P, Woźniak M, Malyarchuk BA, Derenko MV, Skonieczna K, Grzybowski T

To explore the origin of Eastern Europeans we investigated Y chromosome and mitochondrial H5 haplogroup diversity in population samples from Ukraine and other Eastern European countries. Y chromosome diversity was analyzed using a panel of 11 SNP polymorphisms (including M458 – so called “Western Slavic marker”) and 17 Y-STRs on 154 DNA samples from Ukrainians. These results were compared to previously published data from Slavic and non-Slavic populations.
Mitochondrial DNA control-region sequences of about 2700 samples obtained from Eastern (Russians and Ukrainians) and Western Slavs (Czechs, Poles and Slovaks) were used to select 51 samples representing mitochondrial H5 haplogroup. For these mtDNAs the entire genome sequences were determined. Together with published data we have collected 210 complete mtDNA sequences belonging to the H5 haplogroup. Thus, improvement of the resolution of H5 haplogroup phylogeny and evolutionary age estimation of H5 subhaplogroups were possible. We were able to identify a number of new subhaplogroups (i.e. H5a1a1, H5a1r, H5a1s and others) as well as to show that the founder H5 clade (12-15 ky old) is mainly represented by individuals from southern Europe. We also showed some subclusters (H5a1a, H5a1f, H5e1a, H5a2 and H5u), which are mainly represented by residents of central and eastern Europe. The evolutionary age of these subhaplogorups was dated between 2-5 ky. The overall picture of Y chromosome and mtDNA diversity in Central Europe corresponds well with origin and later expansion of Corded Ware European culture. Thus, we suggest that genetic continuity existed in Central Europe between Bronze Age and Middle Ages when the earliest Slavic tribes were described.

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