Big Y for N

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 3:24 am
Hi supertigerCH,

Just like Larry said copy and paste is the best way to go, example just like mine below

Best qual (4)
ChrY: 5755704 YFS092549 G to A Q:100

ChrY: 9819059 YFS092588 T to C Q:100

ChrY: 18555162 YFS092827 T to C Q:100

ChrY: 21508288 YFS092906 C to A Q:100

Acceptable qual (1)
ChrY: 16389889 YFS092772 C to A Q:96

Looking forward to see the results, if you don't mind what is your dad's Yfull ID number?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:57 am
Thank you Sasha.


My father's YFull I.D. number is... YF03390
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:04 am
Here is the 1 "BEST QUAL" Novel SNP for my father (FT DNA kit# 202123, YFull I.D. YF03390)



Novel SNPs:


BEST QUAL


ChrY: 2807209 YFS441554 A to G Q:100 G
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:36 am
Here are the 10 "ACCEPTABLE QUAL" Novel SNPS for my father (FT DNA kit# 202123, YFull I.D. YF03390)...



Novel SNPs:


ChrY: 2808649 YFS441555 C to G Q:98 G

ChrY: 14019103 YFS441589 C to T Q:96

ChrY: 14215819 YFS441590 T to A Q:94

ChrY: 15478594 YFS441593 T to C Q:93 G

ChrY: 15783548 YFS441595 C to T Q:96

ChrY: 16511947 YFS441599 A to C Q:97

ChrY: 19227821 YFS441604 C to T Q:98

ChrY: 21908912 YFS441614 G to A Q:96

ChrY: 22146420 YFS441616 C to T Q:100

ChrY: 23507910 YFS441619 G to A Q:91
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:49 am
Juhani Wayrynen wrote:
lgmayka wrote:
sasha39 wrote:I have 4 best qual and 1 acceptable Golitsin has only 2 best qual and no acceptable, do I add both together to work our the patrilinage. :?:

So the two of you average 3.5 reliable unshared SNPs. That multiplies out to 490-525 years (140-150 years per SNP). Perhaps Golitsin's Big Y was slightly below-average in quality/coverage.

By the way, your new subclade is visible on YFull's latest haplotree.


Sasha
Your 4 best and 1 acceptable = 5 SNPs x 150 years = 750 years ago that is almost the same when Gediminas is born c. 1275.
Perhaps Golitsin's BigY was slighly below-average than Igmayka said.

In 1333 Narimantas was invited by Novgorod's nobles to rule and protect territories in the north, Ladoga, Oreshek and Korela.[1] He started the tradition of Lithuanian mercenary service north of Novgorod on the Swedish border that lasted until Novgorod's fall to Moscow in 1477.[2].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narimantas

So Narimantas ruled over territories where East-Chudes and Karelians lived.


Hi Juhani,

YFull have just released some of the analysis for the sample from Prince Trubetskoy and the results are very promising given the fact that the Czartoryski and Trubetskoy both stem from one of Gediminas’ sons Algirdas (Olgierd).
Both families are descendants through 2 different sons Konstantinas Algirdaitis ancestor to the Czartoryski and Dmitrijus Algirdaitis ancestor to the Trubetskoy.
Trubetkoy has 4 best quals and none acceptable and in my results I have 4 best quals and 1 acceptable, thus give us a total of 9 or an average of 4.5 using the calculation 150 years per SNP would give us 4.5 X 150 years = 675 TMRCA or 2015 – 675 gives us the year 1340
Algirdas son of Gediminas was born in 1296 and died in 1377, and like his father was Grand duke of Lithuania from 1345 until his death in 1377.
So it seem that indeed my family are descendants of Gediminas and that we are related to the Polish Czartoyski family somewhere along the lines. :D
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:14 pm
By the latest STR results for Prince Trubetskoy I must admit that I am more than a bit confused, either the History books have it wrong about who was the ancestor of the Czartoryski family or that my thinking is completely wrong and that my ancestors the Russian Chartorizhskii family and the Polish Czartoryski family are connected in a direct line, looking at the results it is more likely that I am the off spring of some bastard son of the Golitsin family somewhere along the line in history. Goes to show never count your chickens before they hatch.
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Prince Golitsin and I are both at the same distance of 0.088 from Prince Trubetskoy, where if the History books are correct it should be myself and Trubetskoy more or less at the same point away from Golitsin, anyone care to share their thoughts on the results? :oops:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:04 am
sasha39 wrote:Prince Golitsin and I are both at the same distance of 0.088 from Prince Trubetskoy, where if the History books are correct it should be myself and Trubetskoy more or less at the same point away from Golitsin, anyone care to share their thoughts on the results?

The latest tree shows two individuals closer to each other than to the third.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:44 am
Hi Larry,

Yes and that is my problem as the two that are closer to one another are Prince Golitsin and myself and Prince Trubetskoy is further away from us, the Genealogy records suggest the the it should be Prince Trubetskoy and myself that should be closer together and that Prince Golitsin is the one who should be further away.
Never a dull moment when trying to match Genealogy to DNA results that for sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:14 am
Yes, let's say that nothing is more uncertain than certain...! :D
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:26 pm
Never a truer word said, :) Good to hear from you wejoja.
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