MDLP modification of DIYDodecad calculator

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YDNA:
I2a
MtDNA:
J1c
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:09 am
I have modified Dienekes's DIYDodecad calculator for the K=5...K=15 admixture runs.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6n7iMc2P-yQbDlDRWxLcHJTdU96UVUtOWlTb2hsZw

Download the calculator and proceed accordingly to Dienekes's README.txt.
To run specific K, enter the following command DIYDodecadWin MDLPx.par, where x (5...15).

Good luck and take some fan
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YDNA:
R-L21>DF13**
MtDNA:
H11a2a
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:30 pm
Thanks V. I will check it out.

MJost
148326 DF13** Celtic, Goidelic 111 Marker: GD1/67 & GD3/111 Watterson USA, Cook(UK/Scot Heritage) with a GD5/111, Codere(Watterson(McWalter))IOM GD8/111 and Ross Scotland GD13/111. Cluster 13*-1130-A1: 20 off-modals from L21.
Sorted slow to fast: 531=>12, 497=15, 511=11, 19=>15, 385a=12, 441=14, 552=25, 447=24, 513=11, 557=<15, 446=14, 464d=18, 456=18, 534=16, 449=31, 576=17, 710=36 and 712=>21 68-111Panel
DF13>FGC5496.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9Y3j ... sp=sharing

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YDNA:
I2a
MtDNA:
J1c
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:14 pm
Because GoogleDoc truncated the uploaded archive with the MDLP modification, i've had to re-upload this archive to another server


http://www.sendspace.com/file/jj57hn

DIYDodecad2_1.tgz.md5:ae513e7bd605c9d1666412306ae4a564
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Location: Western Norway
YDNA:
R1b-L21+
MtDNA:
U5b1b1
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:09 pm
Me:

0.59% Caucasian
5.90% Balkanic-1
12.42% Balto-Slavic
4.49% West-Mediterranean
7.64% Iberian
0.00% West-Altaic
8.40% Balto-Finnic
0.21% South-Central-Asian
48.73% Celto-Germanic
5.67% East-Mediterranean
0.00% East-Altaic
1.20% Balkanic-2
2.64% Paleo-North-European
0.53% Uralic-Permic
1.58% Volga-Uralic

Maternal uncle:


1.69% Caucasian
3.30% Balkanic-1
5.72% Balto-Slavic
0.04% West-Mediterranean
7.34% Iberian
0.00% West-Altaic
8.83% Balto-Finnic
0.52% South-Central-Asian
58.33% Celto-Germanic
8.60% East-Mediterranean
0.00% East-Altaic
1.50% Balkanic-2
3.60% Paleo-North-European
0.44% Uralic-Permic
0.08% Volga-Uralic

Maternal granny:


2.65% Caucasian
6.46% Balkanic-1
13.61% Balto-Slavic
2.04% West-Mediterranean
8.95% Iberian
0.00% West-Altaic
7.47% Balto-Finnic
1.79% South-Central-Asian
46.43% Celto-Germanic
5.56% East-Mediterranean
0.00% East-Altaic
1.41% Balkanic-2
2.99% Paleo-North-European
0.51% Uralic-Permic
0.12% Volga-Uralic

Paternal aunt:

1.90% Caucasian
0.09% Balkanic-1
4.83% Balto-Slavic
5.87% West-Mediterranean
7.53% Iberian
0.00% West-Altaic
3.27% Balto-Finnic
1.47% South-Central-Asian
66.91% Celto-Germanic
3.37% East-Mediterranean
0.01% East-Altaic
1.37% Balkanic-2
2.93% Paleo-North-European
0.42% Uralic-Permic
0.02% Volga-Uralic
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Location: Portugal
YDNA:
R1b-Z225
MtDNA:
H7a
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:09 pm
Is it a supervised or an unsupervised ADMIXTURE run? I would like to compare myself to the dataset used for this analysis, otherwise my figures won't hold any meaning.


3.37%  Caucasian           
 18.24%  Balkanic-1          
  8.73%  Balto-Slavic        
 18.38%  West-Mediterranean  
 14.29%  Iberian             
  0.34%  West-Altaic         
  2.47%  Balto-Finnic        
  0.57%  South-Central-Asian 
 21.36%  Celto-Germanic      
  9.08%  East-Mediterranean  
  1.74%  East-Altaic         
  0.63%  Balkanic-2          
  0.60%  Paleo-North-European
  0.09%  Uralic-Permic       
  0.11%  Volga-Uralic        

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:37 pm
Oregon 1841 at 23andme
Orkney Spence at Dna-forums
ORE at FTDNA
DOD 984 in Dienekes Project
US150 (retired- shucks) in Eurogenes
Paper 50% Scottish, 25% German, 12.5% Irish, 3% Cree + Others

3.53% Caucasian
9.35% Balkanic-1
18.04% Balto-Slavic
9.92% West-Mediterranean
9.88% Iberian
0.00% West-Altaic
5.55% Balto-Finnic
0.63% South-Central-Asian
29.34% Celto-Germanic
3.35% East-Mediterranean
1.03% East-Altaic
1.51% Balkanic-2
1.40% Paleo-North-European
3.03% Uralic-Permic
3.45% Volga-Uralic

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:45 am
Thank you very much for this Vadim...Would you be able to give us your thoughts on the origins of each of the ancestral components for this analysis?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:51 am
My French Canadian Wife's results K=15, Makes total sense.
4.44% Caucasian
13.40% Balkanic-1
18.62% Balto-Slavic
12.56% West-Mediterranean
10.56% Iberian
0.00% West-Altaic
2.58% Balto-Finnic
0.02% South-Central-Asian
26.79% Celto-Germanic
8.45% East-Mediterranean
0.00% East-Altaic
0.51% Balkanic-2
1.07% Paleo-North-European
0.73% Uralic-Permic
0.27% Volga-Uralic
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Location: UK
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:06 pm
Vadim Verenich wrote:I have modified Dienekes's DIYDodecad calculator for the K=5...K=15 admixture runs.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6n7iMc2P-yQbDlDRWxLcHJTdU96UVUtOWlTb2hsZw

Download the calculator and proceed accordingly to Dienekes's README.txt.
To run specific K, enter the following command DIYDodecadWin MDLPx.par, where x (5...15).

Good luck and take some fan


Is the MDLP modification only for people with Eastern European ancestry? Can it infer admixed Eastern European ancestry too? I'm amazed by my mother's Volga-Ural score on the k15 compared to other Western Europeans it seems high (2.25%) only Spence beats it so far!! Does MDLP use more Eastern European samples?

Someone kindly ran the other runs (who happens to be a Brit) and those runs show higher levels of Eastern European/Balto-Finnic/Volga-Ural-even Asian (2.25%) on one, compared to the Brit. It definitely supports other analyses (my mother is half Brit half unknown US), so thanks Vadim!
3/4 British 1/4 unknown American (maternal side). Using DNA to work out the unknown bits!
Some kind of Eastern European ancestry it seems, including Hungarian Szekely (3 cousins all related to each other and my mother share same location/surnames in common).
Doug puts my mother on Dutch/German border and DIYDodecad mixed mode agrees! DIYDodecad admixture-13.5% Eastern European.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:20 pm
Whippet wrote:
Vadim Verenich wrote:I have modified Dienekes's DIYDodecad calculator for the K=5...K=15 admixture runs.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6n7iMc2P-yQbDlDRWxLcHJTdU96UVUtOWlTb2hsZw

Download the calculator and proceed accordingly to Dienekes's README.txt.
To run specific K, enter the following command DIYDodecadWin MDLPx.par, where x (5...15).

Good luck and take some fan


Is the MDLP modification only for people with Eastern European ancestry? Can it infer admixed Eastern European ancestry too? I'm amazed by my mother's Volga-Ural score on the k15 compared to other Western Europeans it seems high (2.25%) only Spence beats it so far!! Does MDLP use more Eastern European samples?

Someone kindly ran the other runs (who happens to be a Brit) and those runs show higher levels of Eastern European/Balto-Finnic/Volga-Ural-even Asian (2.25%) on one, compared to the Brit. It definitely supports other analyses (my mother is half Brit half unknown US), so thanks Vadim!


I think this calculator works pretty well for all Europeans from the looks of it.

I am curious to see what Brits score in this latest K=15 MDLP analysis. Would you be able to post your mother's and your own results Whippet?
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