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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:25 am
Jackson wrote:
J Man wrote:Thank you very much Jackson it indeed is interesting to compare. I think your own and your family member's results make good sense. You all of course look very English/British and some of your continental pulls most likely come from Germanic type ancestry I should think.


Thanks J Man. Sorry i cluttered up the thread though. I was going to include phased data files too but i probably won't as they are variations on these profiles.

Could well be, although i think there is some distant Italian-like ancestry on my mother's side. Seems to be about 1-3% on 23&me, and comes up as a bit more on these.

The MDLP World 22 seems to be quite accurate in particular for you, although it is not so for my family unfortunately.
I think Eurogenes makes the most sense as it usually gets the right population first, or close to first. And the actual oracle suggestions (particular on single mode, and also Oracle X in some cases) are quite reasonable, although i cannot know if they are truly correct. Dodecad K12b takes position as my second favourite though, the it is generally good and the addition of the Gedrosia components helps it pinpoint my family in and around the British Isles it seems.


No worries at all my friend I am glad to see all of your family member's results. :)

Yes the MDLP seems to be very accurate for me I agree. From looking at my own results and those of your own family member's I think each analysis is actually quite accurate in their own ways. It is nice to be able to use different ADMIXTURE analysis to look at our ancestry in different ways I think.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:28 am
MJost wrote:Here is some of my 4 pops but the Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle at four showed stange Spain area mix.

M162635

Pct. Calc. Option 2

MDLP World-22 4-Ancestors Oracle

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British + British + German-North + German-North @ 2.087
2 Belarusian_V + British + British + British @ 2.261
3 British + German-North + German_V + Welsh @ 2.264
4 British + CEU + German-North + German-North @ 2.310
5 British + British + British + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.321
6 British + CEU_V + German-North + Welsh @ 2.322
7 British + German-North + German-North + Orcadian @ 2.366
8 British + British + Slovakian + Welsh @ 2.385
9 German-North + German_V + Orcadian + Welsh @ 2.392
10 British + German-North + German-North + Welsh @ 2.428


MDLP K=12 4-Ancestors Oracle

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 GBRCORN + GBRORK + SLK + NRW @ 4.999
2 CRT + GBRORK + GBRORK + NRW @ 5.053
3 GBRORK + GBRORK + SLV + SWD @ 5.081
4 CEU + GBRORK + HNG + NRW @ 5.120
5 CRT + GBRORK + GBRORK + SWD @ 5.128
6 CEU + GBRORK + GBRORK + HNG @ 5.154
7 GBRKN + GBRORK + SLK + NRW @ 5.198
8 CRT + GBRORK + NRW + NRW @ 5.199
9 GBRCORN + GBRORK + SLV + NRW @ 5.214
10 GBRORK + GBRORK + SRB + SWD @ 5.228


Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% British_Isles +50% Hungarians @ 1.891
2 50% Hungarians +50% Orkney @ 2.097
3 50% Hungarians +50% Orcadian @ 2.257
4 50% English +50% Hungarians @ 2.310
5 50% Hungarians +50% Irish @ 2.318
6 50% CEU30 +50% Hungarians @ 2.353
7 50% German +50% German @ 2.520
8 50% Hungarians +50% Kent @ 2.589
9 50% British +50% Hungarians @ 2.594
10 50% Argyll +50% Hungarians @ 2.612


Thank you MJost. Do these match up well with your known ancestry at all?
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YDNA:
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H11a2a
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:09 am
J Man wrote:
Thank you MJost. Do these match up well with your known ancestry at all?
Yes my half maternal sister has

1 German + German_V + German_V + Norwegian_V @ 1.192

And my paternal side YDNA STR closest matches are shown in my signature.

MJost
148326 DF13** Celtic, Goidelic 111 Marker: GD1/67 & GD3/111 Watterson USA, Cook(UK/Scot Heritage) with a GD5/111, Codere(Watterson(McWalter))IOM GD8/111 and Ross Scotland GD13/111. Cluster 13*-1130-A1: 20 off-modals from L21.
Sorted slow to fast: 531=>12, 497=15, 511=11, 19=>15, 385a=12, 441=14, 552=25, 447=24, 513=11, 557=<15, 446=14, 464d=18, 456=18, 534=16, 449=31, 576=17, 710=36 and 712=>21 68-111Panel
DF13>FGC5496.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:23 pm
MJost wrote:
J Man wrote:
Thank you MJost. Do these match up well with your known ancestry at all?
Yes my half maternal sister has

1 German + German_V + German_V + Norwegian_V @ 1.192

And my paternal side YDNA STR closest matches are shown in my signature.

MJost


Good to see that it seems to work well for other people then as well. :)

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MtDNA:
H3ap
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:27 pm
My known genealogical background report has changed a bit after further investigation (much due to new Relative Finder matches and investigation stemming from).

At this juncture it looks approximately 75% British Isles derived (The part of the report that varies little, I'd think due to more complete record connected to recency. The remainder from the European continent is what has been more variable). The remainder is for the most part German speaking (Most are from Rhineland Palatinate and Baden-Württemberg. Then there's some recently discovered Ashkenazim via Relative Finder after I upgraded to V3, Lower Austria being a focus point), then there's some more distant Swedish and Iberian.

Me (M091144)

Eurogenes

Pct. Calc. Option 2 Oracle-4

EUTest -

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 FR + FR + IE + NO @ 3.015
2 DK + FR + FR + IE @ 3.107
3 FR + FR + NO + Orcadian @ 3.210
4 FR + IE + NL + NL @ 3.233
5 English + FR + FR + NO @ 3.236
6 Cornish + FR + NL + NL @ 3.247
7 FR + FR + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.267
8 DK + FR + FR + Orcadian @ 3.273
9 FR + FR + NL + NO @ 3.287
10 Cornish + English + FR + NL @ 3.345
11 FR + IE + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.346
12 Cornish + FR + FR + NO @ 3.351
13 English + FR + IE + NL @ 3.365
14 English + FR + NL + NL @ 3.372
15 DK + FR + FR + NL @ 3.377
16 DK + English + IE + North_Italian @ 3.388
17 FR + FR + IE + NL @ 3.396
18 English + FR + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 3.405
19 DK + DK + FR + FR @ 3.405
20 English + IE + NO + North_Italian @ 3.413


JTest -

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 FR + FR + IE + NO @ 3.442
2 DK + FR + FR + IE @ 3.604
3 FR + IE + NL + NL @ 3.619
4 FR + FR + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.630
5 FR + IE + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.688
6 DK + IE + IE + North_Italian @ 3.699
7 ES + IE + NL + NL @ 3.707
8 FR + FR + NO + Orcadian @ 3.726
9 IE + IE + NO + North_Italian @ 3.749
10 ES + IE + NL + NO @ 3.754
11 ES + IE + NO + West_&_Central_German @ 3.783
12 English + FR + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 3.785
13 English + FR + IE + NL @ 3.789
14 IE + NL + NL + PT @ 3.791
15 Cornish + FR + NL + NL @ 3.792
16 English + IE + NO + North_Italian @ 3.799
17 DK + ES + IE + NL @ 3.801
18 FR + FR + IE + NL @ 3.803
19 ES + IE + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.805
20 DK + ES + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 3.816


Dodecad

K12b -

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 British_Isles + Bulgarians + Kent + Kent @ 0.939
2 British_Isles + British_Isles + Bulgarians + Kent @ 0.976
3 British_Isles + Bulgarians + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.018
4 British_Isles + Bulgarians + English + Kent @ 1.025
5 British_Isles + Bulgarians + CEU30 + Kent @ 1.039
6 British_Isles + Bulgarians + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.043
7 British_Isles + Bulgarians + Cornwall + English @ 1.075
8 British_Isles + British_Isles + Bulgarians + Cornwall @ 1.091
9 British + British_Isles + Bulgarians + Kent @ 1.111
10 British_Isles + Bulgarians + English + English @ 1.153
11 British_Isles + British_Isles + Bulgarians + English @ 1.158
12 British_Isles + Bulgarians + Cornwall + Dutch @ 1.161
13 British_Isles + British_Isles + Bulgarians + CEU30 @ 1.163
14 British_Isles + Bulgarians + CEU30 + English @ 1.168
15 British + British_Isles + Bulgarians + CEU30 @ 1.186
16 British_Isles + Bulgarians + CEU30 + CEU30 @ 1.188
17 German + Mixed_Germanic + North_Italian + Norwegian @ 1.195
18 British + British_Isles + Bulgarians + English @ 1.215
19 Bulgarians + CEU30 + CEU30 + Cornwall @ 1.251
20 Bulgarians + CEU30 + Cornwall + Kent @ 1.258


MDLP

Pct. Calc. Option 2 Oracle-4

World 22 -

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 German_V + German_V + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.031
2 German-North + German-South + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.108
3 CEU_V + German_V + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.132
4 CEU + Croatian + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.197
5 German-South + German-South + German-South + German_V @ 2.200
6 British + Croatian + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.222
7 German-North + German-North + German-South + Kosovar @ 2.272
8 CEU_V + CEU_V + German_V + Kosovar @ 2.322
9 German-South + German_V + Italian_North + Swedish @ 2.339
10 CEU + German-North + German_V + Kosovar @ 2.348
11 CEU_V + CEU_V + CEU_V + Kosovar @ 2.357
12 CEU_V + German-South + German-South + German-South @ 2.367
13 Austrian + German_V + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.368
14 CEU_V + German-North + German_V + Kosovar @ 2.372
15 German-South + German-South + Montenegrin + Swedish @ 2.380
16 Kosovar + Serbian + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.383
17 CEU + Hungarian + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.387
18 German + German-South + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.395
19 British + Hungarian + Kosovar + Swedish @ 2.403
20 German-North + German-South + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 2.406


Harappaworld

1 basque + serbian + ukranian + utahn-white @ 2.164
2 basque + serbian + ukranian + utahn-white @ 2.228
3 basque + british + serbian + ukranian @ 2.278
4 basque + belorussian + serbian + utahn-white @ 2.311
5 basque + british + russian + serbian @ 2.327
6 british + serbian + spain-basc + ukranian @ 2.330
7 serbian + spain-basc + ukranian + utahn-white @ 2.345
8 basque + n-european + serbian + ukranian @ 2.350
9 serbian + spain-basc + ukranian + utahn-white @ 2.376
10 basque + orcadian + serbian + ukranian @ 2.391
11 basque + russian + serbian + utahn-white @ 2.393
12 basque + belorussian + bulgarian + orcadian @ 2.457
13 basque + belorussian + british + serbian @ 2.478
14 orcadian + serbian + spain-basc + ukranian @ 2.493
15 belorussian + serbian + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.497
16 basque + french + lithuanian + serbian @ 2.533
17 french + lithuanian + serbian + spain-basc @ 2.549
18 basque + bulgarian + orcadian + russian @ 2.560
19 french + french + slovenian + utahn-white @ 2.566
20 french + french + hungarian + utahn-white @ 2.569
R-P312 clades tested for: DF99+ P312+ DF27- DF19- U152- L21- L459- Z245- L238- Z2245- Z2247-
Ysearch: VNSGW
mtDNA: H3ap
Gedmatch ID: M033622
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