Utterly Stunned and shocked by the MT dna results

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YDNA:
R-L21>DF13**
MtDNA:
H11a2a
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:56 pm
Are you testing HVR2 & Coding Region?
148326 DF13** Celtic, Goidelic 111 Marker: GD1/67 & GD3/111 Watterson USA, Cook(UK/Scot Heritage) with a GD5/111, Codere(Watterson(McWalter))IOM GD8/111 and Ross Scotland GD13/111. Cluster 13*-1130-A1: 20 off-modals from L21.
Sorted slow to fast: 531=>12, 497=15, 511=11, 19=>15, 385a=12, 441=14, 552=25, 447=24, 513=11, 557=<15, 446=14, 464d=18, 456=18, 534=16, 449=31, 576=17, 710=36 and 712=>21 68-111Panel
DF13>FGC5496.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9Y3j ... sp=sharing
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YDNA:
R-L21>DF13**
MtDNA:
H11a2a
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:10 pm
is this your kit number or is this a HV1 match?

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/ame ... =mtresults
222261 Agustina Mendes b.1780? Costa Rica
148326 DF13** Celtic, Goidelic 111 Marker: GD1/67 & GD3/111 Watterson USA, Cook(UK/Scot Heritage) with a GD5/111, Codere(Watterson(McWalter))IOM GD8/111 and Ross Scotland GD13/111. Cluster 13*-1130-A1: 20 off-modals from L21.
Sorted slow to fast: 531=>12, 497=15, 511=11, 19=>15, 385a=12, 441=14, 552=25, 447=24, 513=11, 557=<15, 446=14, 464d=18, 456=18, 534=16, 449=31, 576=17, 710=36 and 712=>21 68-111Panel
DF13>FGC5496.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9Y3j ... sp=sharing
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YDNA:
Pat-R-P312-DF27+
MtDNA:
Mat-U5b1d1 PatMt-A2
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:20 pm
That is my dads kit number. I only test HVR1. Probably not planning to test further. If it was a european hg (U, T, K etc...) I would have. Being Indian is pretty much well............being Indian. We know where Indians came from, no mystery there! ;)

I searched all FTDNA and mitosearch. She has no known matches. She has several that no one else seems to have. From memory, one is 16456A
Did my infancy succeed another age of mine that dies before it? Was it that which I spent within my mother's womb? . . . And what before that life again, O God of my joy, was I anywhere or in any body?
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Posts: 387
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:51 pm

YDNA:
R-L21>DF13**
MtDNA:
H11a2a
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:55 am
I understand. I have a relatively low testing match for my mt and Y DNA as well.

Good luck.
148326 DF13** Celtic, Goidelic 111 Marker: GD1/67 & GD3/111 Watterson USA, Cook(UK/Scot Heritage) with a GD5/111, Codere(Watterson(McWalter))IOM GD8/111 and Ross Scotland GD13/111. Cluster 13*-1130-A1: 20 off-modals from L21.
Sorted slow to fast: 531=>12, 497=15, 511=11, 19=>15, 385a=12, 441=14, 552=25, 447=24, 513=11, 557=<15, 446=14, 464d=18, 456=18, 534=16, 449=31, 576=17, 710=36 and 712=>21 68-111Panel
DF13>FGC5496.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By9Y3j ... sp=sharing
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YDNA:
Pat-R-P312-DF27+
MtDNA:
Mat-U5b1d1 PatMt-A2
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:12 am
So M.Sc. Bernal Morera found my dad's mtdna info on mito search and has contacted me about my grandmothers dna. He is a professor of Costa Rica's National University. I'm going to cooperate with him to see what he can help me out with. I'll update with more info as it comes in. This is exciting. She has no matches and has many extras that the others in her HG don't have. :P
Did my infancy succeed another age of mine that dies before it? Was it that which I spent within my mother's womb? . . . And what before that life again, O God of my joy, was I anywhere or in any body?
~
Confessions of St. Augustine
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YDNA:
Pat-R-P312-DF27+
MtDNA:
Mat-U5b1d1 PatMt-A2
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:20 pm
FF tests find me at 16.80% Colombian Indian and Mayan A2. They detect 2 distinct type of Indian somehow. One is classified as S. American and the other Central American.
Did my infancy succeed another age of mine that dies before it? Was it that which I spent within my mother's womb? . . . And what before that life again, O God of my joy, was I anywhere or in any body?
~
Confessions of St. Augustine
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Location: Ancestral location: Spain
YDNA:
I1d1 (I-M253)
MtDNA:
U5b2b3a
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:01 pm
Well, I am also stunned and shocked by my father's mtDNA result. He is A2k1. However, at the same time, after the first 30 seconds of shock, my logical brain went "Duh! Of course!". My dad's Y-DNA is I1d1. So, in my case, a Spaniard arrived in Puerto Rico circa 1495 and fathered children with a native Taino woman. Granted, my father may not necessarily like this results, as his expectation is to be fully entrenched in Europe.

He has four exact matches in Puerto Rico for his mtDNA. These four individuals either live in Puerto Rico or have ancestry in Puerto Rico. His Y-DNA has matches to two individuals, one with ancestry in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, and the other to Portugal. Let me explain that the gedcoms for the first individual indicates that their line started in Santo Domingo, but quickly moved and settled in Puerto Rico [I can't confirm this since I am not a historian, but the natives in Santo Domingo were not as welcoming as the natives in Puerto Rico; further aggravated by the constant attacks by pirates, since Santo Domingo was a main stop for the Mexican gold headed to Spain].

Thus, as shocking as it might be, and I know my dad will yell at me and tell me the results are wrong, his mtDNA makes complete sense to me.

The next step is to explain to my dad that his mtDNA has more in common with the Eskimo and Aleut than with Spain....
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Maternal surnames: Gelpí, Lebrón, Ruiz, Vientos, Mendez, Jardines, Marty, Cintra, Crisostomos, Orta, Perez, Torres
Paternal surnames: Ramírez, Jiménez/Gimenes, Rodríguez, López, Pagán, Jacome, Rivera, del Toro, Figueroa, Carlo

Paternal mtDNA: A2k1
gedMatch ID: FN105290
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