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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:06 pm
L11 is a Neolithic SNP and the majority of western Europeans are descended from the family who had this SNP. The problem is that the L11 family was a very small family during the Neolithic so it would be difficult to locate Neolithic remains with this SNP. Also, there seems to be a reluctance in the Isles to test Neolithic remains even though there are plenty from the period. The "Tomb of the Eagles" in the Orkney Islands from the Neolithic contained 1000's of bone fragment and yet we do not hear of dna tests on any of these. It is hard to believe that they are not interested. We hear of lots of dna tests on ancient remains in Hungary and it is a much poorer country than Scotland.

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Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:56 pm
dartraighe wrote:L11 is a Neolithic SNP and the majority of western Europeans are descended from the family who had this SNP. The problem is that the L11 family was a very small family during the Neolithic so it would be difficult to locate Neolithic remains with this SNP. Also, there seems to be a reluctance in the Isles to test Neolithic remains even though there are plenty from the period. The "Tomb of the Eagles" in the Orkney Islands from the Neolithic contained 1000's of bone fragment and yet we do not hear of dna tests on any of these. It is hard to believe that they are not interested. We hear of lots of dna tests on ancient remains in Hungary and it is a much poorer country than Scotland.


So far the largest part of R-L11 comes from the Ilses or anyway those places of Europe, but the oldest haplotype belongs to Amerighi from Siena, who may come from a noble family of German origin, but he should do a deep SNP test for knowing more...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:02 pm
Gioiello wrote:
dartraighe wrote:L11 is a Neolithic SNP and the majority of western Europeans are descended from the family who had this SNP. The problem is that the L11 family was a very small family during the Neolithic so it would be difficult to locate Neolithic remains with this SNP. Also, there seems to be a reluctance in the Isles to test Neolithic remains even though there are plenty from the period. The "Tomb of the Eagles" in the Orkney Islands from the Neolithic contained 1000's of bone fragment and yet we do not hear of dna tests on any of these. It is hard to believe that they are not interested. We hear of lots of dna tests on ancient remains in Hungary and it is a much poorer country than Scotland.


So far the largest part of R-L11 comes from the Ilses or anyway those places of Europe, but the oldest haplotype belongs to Amerighi from Siena, who may come from a noble family of German origin, but he should do a deep SNP test for knowing more...



They will continue to dig up ancient remains in Hungary to try and prove the theory that the PIE + R1b came through Hungary from the Steppe to western Europe.
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