Big Y upgrade

General discussions regarding DNA and its uses in genealogy research

Posts: 2312
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:17 pm
These are my results:
ChrY BAM file size: 0.29 Gb
Hg19
Reads (all): 3810713
Mapped reads: 3808394
(99.94%)
Unmapped reads: 2319
(0.06%)
Length coverage: 22858252 bp
(89.10%)
Min depth coverage: 1X
Max depth coverage: 7999X
Mean depth coverage: 21.38X
Median depth coverage: 12X
Length coverage for age: 8298345 bp
No call: 2795314 bp


SNPs (all): 115347
Positive: 2941 (2.55%)
Negative: 111645 (96.79%)
Ambiguous: 98 (0.08%)
No call: 646 (0.56%)

No test better than my Full Genome.

Posts: 2099
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:43 pm

MtDNA:
U5b2b
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:54 pm
Gioiello wrote:These are my results:
ChrY BAM file size: 0.29 Gb
Hg19
Reads (all): 3810713
Mapped reads: 3808394
(99.94%)
Unmapped reads: 2319
(0.06%)
Length coverage: 22858252 bp
(89.10%)
Min depth coverage: 1X
Max depth coverage: 7999X
Mean depth coverage: 21.38X
Median depth coverage: 12X
Length coverage for age: 8298345 bp
No call: 2795314 bp


SNPs (all): 115347
Positive: 2941 (2.55%)
Negative: 111645 (96.79%)
Ambiguous: 98 (0.08%)
No call: 646 (0.56%)

No test better than my Full Genome.



Gioiello
It is good test but how many testers can you encourage to buy the test? The FGC tree is crap and there is no matching format. And their database is tiny compared to FTDNA. The Big Y is enough to get most testers to the end game and it is a very reasonable price. With the new YSTR info and TMRCA calculations in the pipeline it will be hard to beat.

Posts: 2312
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:27 pm
dartraighe wrote:Gioiello
It is good test but how many testers can you encourage to buy the test? The FGC tree is crap and there is no matching format. And their database is tiny compared to FTDNA. The Big Y is enough to get most testers to the end game and it is a very reasonable price. With the new YSTR info and TMRCA calculations in the pipeline it will be hard to beat.


The price is good, but I denounced from many years that that firm, I called "the criminal firm", worked very likely in dumping, in fact bought all the other companies beginning from DNAHeritage and many others all around the world are its branches, and it did everything against YFull, beginning from forbidding to extract the mt and now not sending the .BAM file, and it did everything in order to forbid that the truth were discovered, for imposing its agenda in favour of the Jewish interests, and controlling all the blogs and fora (we both are the victims of their banishments), so I don't understand your words. This firm is the worst thing that could happen to the genetical inquire, but they had to do with me as to the origin of hg. R1b1 and much other.

Posts: 2099
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:43 pm

MtDNA:
U5b2b
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:45 pm
Gioiello wrote:
dartraighe wrote:Gioiello
It is good test but how many testers can you encourage to buy the test? The FGC tree is crap and there is no matching format. And their database is tiny compared to FTDNA. The Big Y is enough to get most testers to the end game and it is a very reasonable price. With the new YSTR info and TMRCA calculations in the pipeline it will be hard to beat.


The price is good, but I denounced from many years that that firm, I called "the criminal firm", worked very likely in dumping, in fact bought all the other companies beginning from DNAHeritage and many others all around the world are its branches, and it did everything against YFull, beginning from forbidding to extract the mt and now not sending the .BAM file, and it did everything in order to forbid that the truth were discovered, for imposing its agenda in favour of the Jewish interests, and controlling all the blogs and fora (we both are the victims of their banishments), so I don't understand your words. This firm is the worst thing that could happen to the genetical inquire, but they had to do with me as to the origin of hg. R1b1 and much other.



Gioiello
I am focussed on the best path for me to finish my research. One has to concentrate on the best company to do this and I don't see any other company with such a large ydna database that I can join and that has the least expensive NGS test. A tester who takes an FGC test or a test with any other company, and has 16 out of the 32 SNPs in my terminal branch, will not show up as a match on my page at FTDNA. I will not even know that he exists.

The way to go is to stick to the science and forget about the disputes. Dwelling on the bad stuff will hold one back from making progress. When you prove people wrong with your knowledge of haplotypes etc. then you will get the kudos for it.

Posts: 2099
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:43 pm

MtDNA:
U5b2b
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:36 am
Gioiello
Some testers who take the Big Y test end up with between 30 and 50 YSNPs but the problem is that FTDNA does not have any of these YSNPs available as single marker tests. YSEQ is the best company that helps Big Y testers to make their YSNPs available for testing potential matches.

I have a same surname FF match at FTDNA and he asked about YDNA tests and which test is best for establishing the link between us. I picked out one of my best quality YSNPs at YSEQ and suggested to him that he could test this one marker. This one marker that I picked is estimated to have occurred between 700 and 1,300 ybp according to Yfull. If he has this YSNP he is definitely related to me on the paternal line. It will only cost him $18. If he isn't then he has not spent a lot of money.

A 67 marker test at FTDNA would cost him $268 and he would still have to take an SNP test to prove that we were in the same dna branch.
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