Out from where?

General discussions regarding DNA and its uses in genealogy research

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YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:44 pm
Gioiello Tognoni ha condiviso un link.

ISOGG 2018 Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree Trunk
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1 Mattia Mirettban
Gioiello Tognoni It seems that we descend from a line in common with Neanderthals but not with Denisovans. May be that another proof against the "Out of Africa"?
Mattia Mirettban Quindi aveva ragione Klysov?

Gioiello Tognoni Klyosov. Lui diceva che non c'era collegamento fra A00 e A0-T, ma da qui sembra che il collegamento sia stabilito fra A000 e T, quindi già dai Neanderthals e noi.

Gioiello Tognoni These are the SNPs at the A00-T level and I am positive:
A8834 C to T
ChrY position (Hg19): 6787694 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 6919653 (+strand)
A8839 A to T

ChrY position (Hg19): 9447822 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 9610213 (+strand)

A8842 G to A
hrY position (Hg19): 14599389 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 12487589 (+strand)

A8844 C to G
ChrY position (Hg19): 17552685 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 15440805 (+strand)

A8847 A to G
ChrY position (Hg19): 18894222 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 16782342 (+strand)

A8851 T to C
ChrY position (Hg19): 21902151 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 19740265 (+strand)

A8854 T to C
ChrY position (Hg19): 5999533 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 6131492 (+strand)

and other 114.
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These are the SNPs at the A000 level and I am negative:
A8864 C to T
ChrY position (Hg19): 2825900 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 2957859 (+strand)

A8865 G to A
ChrY position (Hg19): 2883040 (+strand) ?
ChrY position (Hg38): 3014999 (+strand)

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These are the SNPs at the A00 level and aI am negative:
A2942 / A1426 / FGC33403 G to T
ChrY position (Hg19): 22555369 (+strand) ◄
ChrY position (Hg38): 20393483 (+strand)

other thousands of SNPs.

Posts: 2400
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:59 pm
Of course what ISOGG writes after that is RIDICULOUS:
"The root of the Y haplogroup tree is the so-called "Y-Chromosome Adam," the most recent patrineal ancestor of all people living today, who is believed to have lived 60,000 to 90,000 years ago. He was not the only man living at that time, he simply was the only man with an unbroken male line of descent to the present day. The A haplogroup is thought to have been defined about 60,000 years bp. The BT haplogroup split from the root of the Y haplogroup tree 55,000 years before present (bp), probably in North East Africa. The CF(xDE) haplogroup was the common ancestor of all people who migrated outside of Africa until recent times. The defining mutation occurred 31-55,000 years bp in North East Africa and is still most common in Africa today in Ethiopia and Sudan. The DE haplogroup appeared approximately 50,000 years bp in North East Africa and subsequently split into haplogroup E that spread to Europe and Africa and haplogroup D that rapidly spread along the coastline of India and Asia to North Asia. The IJ haplogroup characterizes part of the second wave of emigration from Africa that occurred via the Middle East 45,000 years bp and defines two branches I and J that emigrated northwards and eastwards into Europe. The J branch subsequently split again and contributed to the current North African population. The NO haplogroup appeared approximately 35,000-40,000 years bp in a region east of the Aral sea; subsequent branches spread to North Asia (N) and another branch (O) to South Asia via North India".

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