Also H26 from the Italian Refugium?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:24 pm
Our American friend Louis Loccisano asks on Rootsweb about the mitochondrion of his great-grandmother:
HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
*16519C
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
*263G
*309.1C
*315.1C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
*750G
*1438G
*4769G
*8860G
*10685A
*11152C
*15326G
Ian Logan has correctly answered that this is an H26.
Behar et al. has used this haplotype to determine this subclade :
Sample Id: JQ703239
Unresolved Options:
Partial Descendants:
Private Mutations: G10685A;
Topologically Missing:
Country: "Catholic from Reggio Calabria, Italy"
Geography:
Ancestry:
Reference: Behar 2012b

I haven’t been able to know the ethnicity of the other sample used:
Sample Id: JQ702217
Unresolved Options:
Partial Descendants:
Private Mutations: A3508G;
Topologically Missing:
Country:
Geography:
Ancestry:
Reference: Behar 2012b
Contact:

But on the Ian Logan spreadsheet also H26a is an Italian:
H26a A9545G
1. DQ112771.3(Italy) Kivisild H26a 18-OCT-2006 A750G A1438G A3305G A4769G A8860G A9545G T11152C T14374C A15326G
The age of H26 is 9991.0+/-2521.3 years.

Only H26b is present in Armenia and Middle East (those Druzes thought by the same Behar the witnesses of a Middle Eastern Refugium). Its age is 6753.2+/-2779.2 years.

There is someone who does think that what is in Italy has always come from elsewhere?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:27 am
KC55398 HAL32 (Brotherton 2013) [H26]
A263G A750G A1438G A4769G A8860G T11152C A15326G T16519C

JQ703239 Behar Haplogroup [H26] 07-APR-2012
A263G 309.1C 315.1C A750G A1438G A4769G A8860G G10685A T11152C A15326G T16519C

JQ702217 Behar Haplogroup [H26] 07-APR-2012
A263G 309.1C 309.2C 315.1C A750G A1438G A3508G A4769G A8860G T11152C A15326G T16519C

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:23 am
These are the dates of the mt hg.H26 in Behar 2012b:

H26 9991.0 2521.3
H26a 5378.8 2948.9
H26a1a 3833.4 2879.7
H26b 6753.3 2779.1
H26c 2941.7 7620.6

Beyond what I said above, the FMS of Franco Bernardini, and I thank here Marco Grassi for having tested him (and other explosive samples are coming), who is an Y hg. R-L152-Z56-Z72* and who
is waiting for his Big Y: now we know that the DYS385=11-16, and 12-17 in the Isles, are Z72*, adds a definitive proof upon my first hypothesis, i.e. that H26 comes from Mesolithic Italy:

263G 315.1C 750G 1438G 4769G 5054A 5263T 8860G 9545G 11152C 13500C 16519C.

Thus not only we have the samples of H26* from Italy, beyond the sample JQ723239 (the great-grandmother of Louis Loccisano from Reggio Calabria) but also the sample JX153287, and the hg. H26a DQ112771), but now also this hg. H26a1. Bernardini has two mutations in the coding region not known elsewhere of Italy (5054A and 5263T) and he has no mutation known out of Italy, thus we may hypothesize that H26, H26a, and H26a1 were present in Italy and that they migrated out of Italy Northward forming over there other subclades. We see that the age of H26 is 9991.0 +/- 25521.3. We find H26b not only in the aDNA of Central Europe, but also amongst the Druzes and Armenia with two different haplotypes which presuppose not only three mutations from H26* (T11399C, A12810G, C16320T) but other mutations: T4336C, G7419A, T8119C, T13656C, A14398G the Armenian and T6221C, G8251A, T13899C, G149198A the Druzes.
The subclade H26c formed in Europe from H26* and very likely the sample JQ701953 from Finland with the mutation A9545G present in H26a formed in heteroplasmy. It seems clear from all these data that also this haplogroup demonstrates an expansion from the Italian Refugium as is coming more and more clear also to the scholars as in the last paper on the mt hg. HV4.

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