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Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:35 am
This is written in the "R1b1a2 (P312-, U106-) FTDNA Project":
"The two haplotypes are ht15 and ht35. ht15 is most commonly found in western European R1b1a2, and most likely represents a mesolithic or neolithic population expansion in western Europe. ht35, the parent haplotype of ht15, is most commonly found in southeastern Europe and southwestern Asia. Elevated levels of ht35 have also been observed among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish populations".
What does mean that? The old "ht 15", i.e. from L11 and subclade, would have expanded in Western Europe during the "mesolithic"? I.e. it isn't true that it isn't old in Europe not more than 4700 years? And where have all the old theories gone? And R-L51,overwhelmingly from Italy westwards? Mesolithic, thus my hypothesis that it could be amongst the agriculturalists from Italy to Iberia 7500 years ago may be true. In Western Asia would have been only R-L23. And R-M269, brother clade of R-L23? And the ancestor R1b1-L389*, not present Eastward the Caucasus but with the highest variance in Italy and Western Europe?
A high presence in Sephardic and Ashkenazic Jews? With an only haplotype of R-M269, of R-L277 (13-14-28 cluster), different clusters of R-L584 linked to different places of origin? Of course another path has had R-V88.

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