T1 and the Levant


Posts: 14
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:36 pm

YDNA:
yes
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:59 pm
Hi! I am a Levantine frm area Palestine-Syria-Lebanon. How can I know whether my mt is an indigenous subclade from Levant or whether it was imported frm Europe for instance during Crusaders' period (11th-14th century)? Is there a specific subclade to Levant area? I know that this group is Near Eastern in origin but how can I dissociate my mt from that of Europeans? Also, how frequent % wise is it among Palestinians-Lebanese-Syrians? Turks? Italians? Greeks? and Jews? Thanks so lot, abu khalil, Palestine, E1b1b1, T1.

Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:41 pm

YDNA:
J2a3h L70
MtDNA:
T1a
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:12 pm
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I understand that you have tested your mtDNA at FTDNA only to the level of HVR1. I was checking my matches at that level recently ( I usually have it switched off. 400 matches is a bit much) and I recall someone with your family name as a match at HVR1, who had tested no further. Upgrading to FGS/FMS/coding region (whatever they are calling it nowadays) would give you much more information.

Posts: 14
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:36 pm

YDNA:
yes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:17 pm
Hi! Yes I intend to determine the subclade soon, but if you tell me from what country is your mother from it will give me a hint abt her origin. Your J2 YDNA and your T1 mt DNA makes you a candidate for being a Levantine--is it correct? I noticed almost all my matches of T1 were Europeans (while T2 is more European)--it is true that it is spreaded between Central, northwestern and south eastern Europe (meaning the Near East)---I wonder how frequent is it present among Levantines. Thanks for your answer, Abu Khalil, Palestine, E-M123*, T1.

Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:41 pm

YDNA:
J2a3h L70
MtDNA:
T1a
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:06 pm
I have answered your private message. Please refer to what I have written on the thread Ireland-T1a1. A contributor to DNA Forums, Valery, provided a long list of T1 frequencies. Perhaps he would be so kind as to repeat it here. Perhaps I can provide you with a little of his data fully credited to him, which may be of interest to you. His highest frequency was that of Tata, a North African people, with 30% T1, the Udmurts of the Urals have 13%, Egyptians have 6%, Palestinian Arabs 4.4%, Iraqi Arabs 3.5%, Lithuanians 3%, Belgians 3%, Italians and Portuguese almost 3%,Russians and Germans 2.8%, Swedes 2.5%, English and French 1.6%, Ashkenazi Jews 1.2% and Sephardi Jews 1%.

Posts: 14
Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:36 pm

YDNA:
yes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:20 pm
thanks so lot SHV for your answer abt % of T1 in the Middle east and Europe--I will take a deep clade indeed. I think that T1 is much more present than what is commonly expected among Lebanese, Syrians and Palestinians. Being originally from the Near East I wonder why is it not more present. I wonder then what is the most frequent mt DNA in the Near East. Abu Khalil, Palestine, M123*, T1

Posts: 4
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:34 pm

YDNA:
R-L11*
MtDNA:
T1a1
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:44 pm
to be able to say that this group is originally from the medium east it would be necessary to know exactly where were the forefathers of the Syrian, Lebaneses, Palestinians more than 7000 years ago, they know that this group was in the basin of western Tarim in China more than 3000 years ago and also in the steppes, they can assume that some of the branches scattered according to several directions on a vast geographical zone and can be because of animal husbandry and domestication or of agriculture.

Posts: 1
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:34 pm

YDNA:
I2a2a (M223)
MtDNA:
T2b
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:26 pm
Hi, my ex-wife maternal line is T1a, her maternal ancestry is Lebanese Maronite Christians. (16126C, 16163G, 16186T, 16189C, 16519C), i think here name was Nesima Deud (نسيمة داوود), born abt 1900 in Lebanon

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