Also X2* from the Italian Refugium


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:38 pm
My friend Marco Grassi signals me the mt of Lombardi:

FGPK8 092C, 183C, 189C, 278T, 519C 073G, 153G, 195C, 225A, 263G, 309.1C, 309.2C, 315.1C

From his 23andme he is clearly hg. X2*. Also from Behar 2012b X2* is old more that 20000 years. Another proof, I think, of the Italian Palaeolithic. Lombardi's ancestress comes from Lunigiana, between Tuscany and Liguria.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:12 pm
It seems that the closest haplotype to Lombardi is from Caucasus: another link between Italy and the Caucasus:

Lombardi
073G, 153G, 195C, 225A, 263G, 309.1C, 309.2C, 315.1C
750G 1438G 1719A 2706G 4685nt 4769G 6221C 6371T 7028T 8860G 10774nt 11719A 12705T 13966G 14470C 14544G 14766T 15326nt
16092C, 16183C, 16223C! 16189C, 16278T, 16519C

9. HM852902(Georgian8) Schoenberg X2 17-MAR-2011
A73G A153G T195C G225A A263G C309N T310C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T A8860G G11719A C12705T A13966G T14470C C14766T A15326G T16092C A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16223T C16248T C16278T T16519C

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:46 am
After the paper of Sarac et al., Maternal genetic Heritage of Southeastern Europe, Reveals a New Croatian Isolate and Novel, Local Sub-Branching in the X2 Haplogroup, Annals of Human Genetics (2014), 78, 178-194, it is clear that Lombardi belongs to another subclade of the X2h haplogroup, being negative for the three subclades even though partially tested from 23andMe:
Lombardi X2 (G225A T16223C)
73G 153G 225A 263G 750G 1438G 1719A 1888A 2706G 4769G 6221C 6371T 7028T 8860G 9449T 11719A 12705T 13966G 14470C 14766T 16092C 16223C! 16278T (16519C)
i4000775 MT 12397 A
rs28359178 MT 13708 G
i3001753 MT 16255 G/ 277 not tested
i4001101 MT 15310 T
i3001933 MT 153 G
i3001745 MT 16248 C
i3000535 MT 226 T
T16223C! but
8467 not tested
i4000648 MT 9033 A
Then no subclade but X2/G225A*
8639 not tested
12429 not tested
15892 not tested
i3001763 MT 16261 C
i3001905 MT 16399 A
It is ridiculous that Mr Van Oven didn't accept the results of the paper, being the FMS tested from "the Estonian Biocentre and Department for Evolutionary Biology, Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Tartu, Tartu, Estonia" (p 181).
It is more difficult to support that X2 weren't in European Refugia during the LGM, and to German Dziebel I suggest to take in more account my results, also for his tentative in disproving the Solutrean theory about the peopling of America supported from Shi Huang and his colleagues.

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