Europeans from Middle East or Middle Easterners from Europe?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:58 am
Many spoke in the past of the mt hgs found c/o the Druzes, as my hg. K for instance, as to European derived from Middle Easterners. But perhaps it isn't so. Another friend of Marco Grassi, from Eastern Liguria, even though partially tested from 23andMe, has resulted mt hg. X2-225C/16223C as an Iranian so far, but they are separated from many mutations. These Druzes are one derived subclade:

CRS
A263G A750G A1438G A2706G A4769G C7028T A8860G C14766T A15326G
 R0 A73G G11719A
  R C12705T C16223T
    X T6221C C6371T A13966G T14470C C16278T
     X1'2'3 A153G
      X2 T195C G1719A
        G225A
         X2h C8467T A9033G T16223C
1. EU600325(Druze) Shlush X2h 18-MAY-2008 A73G A153G T195C G225A A263G 315.1C 523.1C 523.2A A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T C8467T A8860G A9033G G11719A C12705T A13966G T14470C C14766T A15326G T16189C C16278T T16519C
2. EU600326(Druze) Shlush X2h 18-MAY-2008 A73G A153G T195C G225A A227G A263G 309.1T T310C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T C8467T A8860G A9033G G11719A C12705T A13966G T14470C C14766T A15326G T16189C C16278T T16519C
3. EU600327(Druze) Shlush X2h 18-MAY-2008 A73G A153G T195C G225A A263G 315.1C 523.1C 523.2A A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T C8467T A8860G A9033G G11719A C12705T A13966G T14470C C14766T A15326G T16189C C16278T T16311C T16519C


whereas the Italian is upstream and the haplogroup is diffused in Croatia, i.e. in the Adriatic Region.

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YDNA:
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:22 am
Thus the tree of X2 has to be written again:

X2-G225A
X2-G225A/T16223C! = Lombardi from Lunigiana, Tuscany, Italy
X2-G225A/T16223C!/A9063G = KC911497 from Iran
X2h-G225A/T16223C!/A9063G/C8467T = Druze samples

Of course no sample is in X2-G225A. Yesterday was
HM852902(Georgian 8) Schoenberg Haplogroup [X2] 17-MAR-2011
A73G A153G T195C G225A A263G C309N T310C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T A8860G G11719A C12705T A13966G T14470C C14766T A15326G T16092C A16183- T16189C 16193.1C C16223T C16248T C16278T T16519C
and now is
EU600328(Druze) Shlush Haplogroup [X2] 18-MAY-2008
A73G A153G T195C G225A A263G 315.1C A750G A1438G G1719A A2706G A4685G A4769G T6221C C6371T C7028T A8860G T9205C C10774T G11719A C12705T A13966G T14470C G14544A C14766T A15326G T16189C C16223T G16274A C16278T C16344T T16519C

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