Formed is tree of the closest family of chromosomal Adam


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:39 pm


Atim writes:

R1a1a-M198 43 14,3 ... 8,4 R1a: YP1272 one very Polish small family

About all that I wrote "The Shive case" in the "R1a Haplogroup" section.

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G2a2b2a1b1a2a-CT4803
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H2a2a1 (rCRS)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:14 pm
TMRCA (Time of the more recent ancestor) 5,400years of R1a1a1-M417 (ancestor of 99% of the R1a worldwide, more than one billion living men * ) and 5,000years of R1a-Z645 (ancestor of 98% of the R1a worldwide, more than one billion living men and "the one common PIE father") seem impossible.
There are big mistakes in the estimated number of SNPs in the last 20,000 years and in the SNP mutation rate.

5000 years is 3000 av Jesus_Christ during the Copper age (600 years before the Bronze Age), a time of numerous differenciated archeological cultures thru Eurasia with population density of some inhabitants/km2 and therefore 15 to 30 millions inhabitants in Eurasia and it is considered the time for the birthes of a lot of the biggest branches of haplogroups which populates the world as R1a, R1b, N1c, O3, and so on ...
There is a big mistake certainly.

In the old demographic, epidemic, economic and political/wars conditions of life , the strong theorical geometric increase of the lineages cannot exist for more than 3/4 generations.

* Correction : "more than one billion living men" by "about two cent million living men".
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YDNA:
Adam-L74; R1a-YP4700
MtDNA:
H14a
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:03 pm
palamede wrote:TMRCA (Time of the more recent ancestor) 5,400years of R1a1a1-M417 (ancestor of 99% of the R1a worldwide, more than one billion living men ) and 5,000years of R1a-Z645 (ancestor of 98% of the R1a worldwide, more than one billion living men and "the one common PIE father") seem impossible.
There are big mistakes in the estimated number of SNPs in the last 20,000 years and in the SNP mutation rate.

5000 years is 3000 av Jesus_Christ during the Copper age (600 years before the Bronze Age), a time of numerous differenciated archeological cultures thru Eurasia with population density of some inhabitants/km2 and therefore 15 to 30 millions inhabitants in Eurasia and it is considered the time for the birthes of a lot of the biggest branches of haplogroups which populates the world as R1a, R1b, N1c, O3, and so on ...
There is a big mistake certainly.
In the old demographic, epidemic, economic and political/wars conditions of life , the strong theorical geometric increase of the lineages cannot exist for more than 3/4 generations.

Statistics is not the father of demography.
Rather the opposite. Built on demography statistics and statistical ideologies.

In my family
One grandfather had 9 children, 25 grandchildren and 65 great-grandchildren;
second grandfather had 10 children, 21 grandchildren, 30 great-grandchildren.
A total of 19 children, 46 grandchildren and 95 great-grandchildren.
The growth rate: 2.42 and 2.07 !
Updt.:
Simply population growth rate of 1.2 in every generation to generation 120 was already 3,175,000,000 people!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:10 pm
The updated AMH family tree, descendants of the Y-Adam

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:24 am
New A00 tree by Thomas Krahn
( http://www.dna-fingerprint.com/static/A00Cameroon.pdf )

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:14 am
Atim wrote:New A00 tree by Thomas Krahn
( http://www.dna-fingerprint.com/static/A00Cameroon.pdf )

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SNPs in total about 5600/2 = ~2800 SNPs from Y-Adam to today

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One SNP = ~100 years.
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Thank you
Astrid and Thomas Krahn (Germany), Forka Leypey Mathew Fomine (Cameroon) and Bonnie Schrack!

Thank you for conducted with great commitment research A00 family and for results obtained,
results announced at a conference in Berlin in May:

http://www.dna-fingerprint.com/static/A00Cameroon.pdf
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