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Possible time of origin: 4,000 to 20,000 BC
Possible place of origin: Europe
Defining mutations: M253, M307, P30, P40
Highest frequencies: People of Northern Europe (Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Sami, Estonian, Russian, Latvian, German, Dutch, English, Scottish, Irish), French

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YDNA:
R-YP431
MtDNA:
H5a1-T152C!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:55 am
Eupedia has written subgroups for I1 http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml

I'm looking at I1 for a member of my family. He has tested I1 (M253) - 67 markers test, but will not join project.

He has DYS390=22, so he cannot be of Northern cluster.

He has DYS557=15, so he cannot be of Southern cluster Danish type, as has DYS557=15.

He must therefore be of Southern cluster - Western group - or?

Eupedia says that Welsh I1 has a subgroup, where GATA-H4=10 (or larger). My family member has 10, but so have almost all I1 - or not? The familyname and the matches point against Wales or UK, though.

Then we have this German group I1f (L338+), where DYS456 is inferior to 15. My relative has 14.

Is this Eupedia article OK? What SNP should be ordered for my relative?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:28 pm
And where you can look at the haplotype?
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YDNA:
R-YP431
MtDNA:
H5a1-T152C!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:40 pm
I can reduce the question to the following: Can anybody explain what to look for to see if a tested I1 (M253) is the Welsh type...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:53 pm
And that this type exists?
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