A Tale of Two Haplogroups and the Spread of Indo-European (P


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:59 pm
nuadha wrote:Thanks, that sounds great. I'll check it out


You might also want to check out the following. I tried google translate to help decipher so take the result's below with a grain of salt.

In Russian,as possible R-M269 hot spots areas over 5%Lobov (2009) Also compare the frequency/ratio of R1b L23x51 to J2 in the study when compared to the Southern Regions like Sinai Peninsula and Arabian Peninsula versus Osset/ Talysh/Gilaki/Lur samples of R-M269 and Kültepe[oldest area of known attested Indo-European language, [Neša, occasionally Anisa), located in the Kayseri Province in Turkey. The nearest modern city to Kültepe is Kayseri, about 20 km...]

http://ftp.anrb.ru/molgen/Lobov_AS.PDF

N-sample size-% found
Northern Russian-N380-5.4%
Unzha-N52-9.6%
Cashin-N73-6.8%
Porkhov-N57-5.3%
Island-75N-2.7%
Roslavi-107N-11.2%
Central Russia-364N-7.1%
Livny-110N-3.6%
Pristen-45N-2.2%
Repyevka-96N-5.2%
Belgorod-143N-2.8%
Kuban Cossacks-90N-8.8%
Terek Cossacks-90N-5.6%
Southern Russia-609N-3.8%
Mezen-54N-0%
Pinega-114N-14%
Krasnoborsh-91N-6.6%
Vologda-121N-.08%
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:36 pm
So you are just going to ignore that the Bashkir R1b is heavilu U152 and is likely a recent introduction which underwent a bottleneck. or the lack of overlap between the the R1a clades of Indo-Iranians And Balto-Slavs making it kind of hard to derive them from Corded Ware (which nobody does. Corded ware either represents NW IE or is restricted to Germanic and Balto-Slavic.)

Just keep making stuff up to connect yourself to the steepe. Invent a population replacement without providing proof it happened if it makes you feel better about yourself.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:47 am
L23x51-Komi-13.1%
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http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0058552

L23x51-Poland-5.44%
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L23x51-Romania-4.5%
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L23x51-Belarus West- 5.2%
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L23x51-Hungary-6.2%
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L23x51-Sweden South (Malmo) National -4.32%
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L23x51-Russia North-2.36%
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:12 am
newtoboard wrote:So you are just going to ignore that the Bashkir R1b is heavilu U152 and is likely a recent introduction which underwent a bottleneck. or the lack of overlap between the the R1a clades of Indo-Iranians And Balto-Slavs making it kind of hard to derive them from Corded Ware (which nobody does. Corded ware either represents NW IE or is restricted to Germanic and Balto-Slavic.)

Just keep making stuff up to connect yourself to the steepe. Invent a population replacement without providing proof it happened if it makes you feel better about yourself.


What would you expect from someone who calls himself a "race scientist"? :roll:

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