C3b and C3 448del connection


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:25 pm
N61150 C3 448del
F1756, F3825,F3844,F3868, F3896,F3931, F3937,F3955, F3971,F4006,F4017

N14102 C3b
F3847, F4039, F4042

C3b and C3 448del common but not share with C3-Z1338 snps
F1396, F1699, F1788, F1906, F2386, F2661, F3348, F3447, F3738, F3752, F3769, F3776, F3783, F3787, F3805, F3831, F3851, F3904, F3914, F3918, F3923, F3927, F3929, F3950, F3951, F3954, F3972, F3977, F3980, F3981, F3982, F3986, F4003, F4012, F4032

need compare with C3 star cluster,C3c

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YDNA:
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MtDNA:
B5a1a
PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:49 pm
214274 DYS448 & DYS589=0
Z1453+ V9+ V77+ V232+ V199+ V189+ V183+ PF970+ P44+ P260+ P255+ P184+ M94+ M42+ M294+ M217+ M216+ M168+ M139+ M130+ L566+ F3952+ F3462+ Z1338- PK2- M48-

PS. CTS10116+, CTS10362+, CTS1083+, CTS109+, CTS11358+, CTS11544+, CTS11575+, CTS11820+, CTS12051+, CTS125+, CTS1831+, CTS1996+, CTS2267+, CTS2377+, CTS244+, CTS3221+, CTS3331+, CTS3430+, CTS3431+, CTS3662+, CTS3910+, CTS4032+, CTS4364+, CTS4368+, CTS4740+, CTS5318+, CTS5410+, CTS5457+, CTS5532+, CTS6266+, CTS6383+, CTS6723+, CTS6800+, CTS6865+, CTS6907+, CTS7355+, CTS7922+, CTS7933+, CTS8148+, CTS8243+, CTS8980+, CTS93+, CTS9828+, F1030+, F1044+, F1090+, F1118+, F1140+, F1208+, F1217+, F1219+, F1241+, F1245+, F1288+, F1307+, F1367+, F1396+, F1490+, F1574+, F1597+, F1622+, F1646+, F1677+, F1678+, F1688+, F1699+, F1717+, F1727+, F1756+, F1788+, F180+, F1871+, F1906+, F1911+, F1963+, F1996+, F2067+, F2111+, F2146+, F2166+, F2253+, F2258+, F2302+, F2305+, F2379+, F2386+, F2446+, F2449+, F2485+, F2501+, F2512+, F2606+, F2607+, F2632+, F2649+, F2661+, F2664+, F2670+, F2678+, F2695+, F2718+, F2774+, F2792+, F2803+, F2847+, F2858+, F2888+, F2897+, F2909+, F2951+, F2969+, F3043+, F3068+, F3122+, F3174+, F3319+, F3324+, F3333+, F3348+, F3388+, F3395+, F3400+, F3447+, F3462+, F3537+, F3553+, F3613+, F3647+, F3666+, F3695+, F3696+, F3698+, F3702+, F3712+, F3718+, F3719+, F3738+, F3752+, F3769+, F3776+, F3783+, F3805+, F3825+, F3830+, F3831+, F3844+, F3847+, F3851+, F3862+, F3868+, F3896+, F3904+, F3914+, F3918+, F3923+, F3927+, F3929+, F3931+, F3937+, F3950+, F3951+, F3952+, F3954+, F3955+, F3971+, F3972+, F3977+, F3980+, F3981+, F3982+, F3986+, F4003+, F4006+, F4010+, F4012+, F4015+, F4017+, F4032+, F734+, F767+, F791+, F847+, F882+, F894+, F909+, F917+, F936+, L566+, L781+, M130+, M139+, M168+, M216+, M217+, M294+, M42+, M48-, M94+, P184+, P255+, P260+, P44+, PF1016+, PF1029+, PF1031+, PF1040+, PF1046+, PF1061+, PF1092+, PF1097+, PF110+, PF112+, PF1203+, PF1276+, PF15+, PF192+, PF210+, PF212+, PF223+, PF234+, PF258+, PF263+, PF272+, PF278+, PF292+, PF316+, PF325+, PF342+, PF4076+, PF500+, PF601+, PF667+, PF719+, PF720+, PF725+, PF779+, PF796+, PF803+, PF815+, PF821+, PF840+, PF844+, PF892+, PF937+, PF951+, PF954+, PF970+, PK2-, V183+, V189+, V199+, V232+, V52+, V77+, V9+, Z1338-, Z1453+, Z1890+

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:50 pm
214274 different SNPs compare with N61150:
F180, F2302, F3613, F3647, F3666, F3830, F4015, PF112, PF4076, Z1890
some SNPs maybe have problems,also found in other haplogroup's geno 2.0 results
F180 QR
F2302 QR
F3613 R
F3666 D
PF112 R N
Z1890? J

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:11 pm
Of 5 F1396 positive C3s, it looks like it can be break down to two groups: one group shares F1756, F3825, F3844, F3868, F3896, F3931, F3937, F3955, F3971, F4006, and F4017; the other group shares F4039 and F4042. The geno 2.0 results for F3918 and F4015 are inconsistent with this breakdown. However, the number of F snps consistent with this breakdown outnumber the two inconsistent ones. So I believe that this breakdown is correct.

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YDNA:
C3
MtDNA:
M7b2
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:07 pm
fjnj wrote:Of 5 F1396 positive C3s, it looks like it can be break down to two groups: one group shares F1756, F3825, F3844, F3868, F3896, F3931, F3937, F3955, F3971, F4006, and F4017; the other group shares F4039 and F4042. The geno 2.0 results for F3918 and F4015 are inconsistent with this breakdown. However, the number of F snps consistent with this breakdown outnumber the two inconsistent ones. So I believe that this breakdown is correct.


I suppose there is nothing wrong for F3918 and F4015 although F4015 seems to show no call for Savoy and Sosnowski. Instead, F4039 and F4042 are rather problematic. Those SNPs are affected by the palindromic repeating region and may be subject to frequent no calls. Please refer to my tree.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:35 pm
dawnland wrote:214274 different SNPs compare with N61150:
F180, F2302, F3613, F3647, F3666, F3830, F4015, PF112, PF4076, Z1890
some SNPs maybe have problems,also found in other haplogroup's geno 2.0 results
F180 QR
F2302 QR
F3613 R
F3666 D
PF112 R N
Z1890? J

noticed FTDNA deleted these SNPs:
F180,F3647, F3666,PF4076,Z1890.214274's Raw data of these SNPs is TC,TC,AC,TG,AG.his F2302 is GG,should negetive

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YDNA:
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B5a1a
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:56 pm
Ancient remains (#178, 92, 5 in the table) have been tested. Also, descendants of Aboulkhair-khan (#3, 5-п, 6, 7) were tested as well and their STRs were compared to possible Aboulkhair-khan's DNA. Researchers weren't able to receive data of DYS448 for all descendants and one of remains, #92.
http://e-history.kz/ru/publications/view/504
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:59 pm
C-F1756 and C-P39 share these SNPs not share with C-M48, C-F4002, C-Y11990:
F3918
F4015
SK1079/Y10421/Z18161
Y10435/Z18160
Y10441/Z18155
Y11623/Z18163

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:45 am
dawnland wrote:C-F1756 and C-P39 share these SNPs not share with C-M48, C-F4002, C-Y11990:

It would be great if a member of C-P39 who has taken the Big Y test would submit his BAM file to YFull. Then YFull's haplotree could illustrate the shared and unshared SNPs.

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