Formed is tree of the closest family of chromosomal Adam

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:58 am
Atim wrote:This tree haplogroups and their time was improved yesterday,
according to improved the YFull experimantal tree.


can you let me know which are the european ID's from Yfull

I have
TSI - tuscan
RUS - russian
CEU- western atlantic ( i presume france, germany and britain )
IBS - iberian

is that all?

no balkan, scandinavian or east european?
Fathers mtdna - T2b17 ...back to 1860 Bucciol line
Grandfathers mtdna - T1a1e ...back to 1820 Mestriner line
Sons Mtdna - K1a4 ....back to 1840 Tesser line
Maternal grandfather ydna - Ild-P109

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YDNA:
Adam-L74; R1a-YP4700
MtDNA:
H14a
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:08 pm
stoeni wrote:
Atim wrote:This tree haplogroups and their time was improved yesterday,
according to improved the YFull experimantal tree.

can you let me know which are the european ID's from Yfull
I have
TSI - tuscan
RUS - russian
CEU- western atlantic ( i presume france, germany and britain )
IBS - iberian
is that all?
no balkan, scandinavian or east european?

Probable all:
CEU - Utah residents (CEPH) with Northern and Western European ancestry
TSI - Toscani in Italia
GBR - British from England and Scotland
FIN - Finnish from Finland
IBS - Iberian populations in Spain
CHB - Han Chinese in Beijing, China
JPT - Japanese in Toyko, Japan
CHS - Han Chinese South
CDX - Chinese Dai in Xishuangbanna
KHV - Kinh in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
CHD - Chinese in Denver, Colorado
YRI - Yoruba in Ibadan, Nigeria
LWK - Luhya in Webuye, Kenya
GWD - Gambian in Western Division, The Gambia
MSL - Mende in Sierra Leone
ESN - Esan in Nigeria
ASW - African Ancestry in Southwest US
ACB - African Caribbean in Barbados
MXL - Mexican Ancestry in Los Angeles, CA
PUR - Puerto Rican in Puerto Rico
CLM - Colombian in Medellin, Colombia
PEL - Peruvian in Lima, Peru
GIH - Gujarati Indian in Houston, TX
PJL - Punjabi in Lahore,Pakistan
BEB - Bengali in Bangladesh
STU - Sri Lankan Tamil in the UK
ITU - Indian Telugu in the UK
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Posts: 542
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:19 am
Location: Family Line Veneto ( italy ) since ~1600
YDNA:
T1a2-Z19945
MtDNA:
H95a
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:54 pm
Atim wrote:
stoeni wrote:
Atim wrote:This tree haplogroups and their time was improved yesterday,
according to improved the YFull experimantal tree.

can you let me know which are the european ID's from Yfull
I have
TSI - tuscan
RUS - russian
CEU- western atlantic ( i presume france, germany and britain )
IBS - iberian
is that all?
no balkan, scandinavian or east european?

Probable all:
CEU - Utah residents (CEPH) with Northern and Western European ancestry
TSI - Toscani in Italia
GBR - British from England and Scotland
FIN - Finnish from Finland
IBS - Iberian populations in Spain
CHB - Han Chinese in Beijing, China
JPT - Japanese in Toyko, Japan
CHS - Han Chinese South
CDX - Chinese Dai in Xishuangbanna
KHV - Kinh in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
CHD - Chinese in Denver, Colorado
YRI - Yoruba in Ibadan, Nigeria
LWK - Luhya in Webuye, Kenya
GWD - Gambian in Western Division, The Gambia
MSL - Mende in Sierra Leone
ESN - Esan in Nigeria
ASW - African Ancestry in Southwest US
ACB - African Caribbean in Barbados
MXL - Mexican Ancestry in Los Angeles, CA
PUR - Puerto Rican in Puerto Rico
CLM - Colombian in Medellin, Colombia
PEL - Peruvian in Lima, Peru
GIH - Gujarati Indian in Houston, TX
PJL - Punjabi in Lahore,Pakistan
BEB - Bengali in Bangladesh
STU - Sri Lankan Tamil in the UK
ITU - Indian Telugu in the UK


Thanks , I already have what they represent as I got a email a long time ago from the creator of these from a University in USA

BTW...I think it MEX and not MXL as per my other post on another thread on this site

GIH = South Asian ( india)
Fathers mtdna - T2b17 ...back to 1860 Bucciol line
Grandfathers mtdna - T1a1e ...back to 1820 Mestriner line
Sons Mtdna - K1a4 ....back to 1840 Tesser line
Maternal grandfather ydna - Ild-P109

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YDNA:
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:18 am
stoeni wrote: Thanks , I already have what they represent as I got a email a long time ago from the creator of these from a University in USA
BTW...I think it MEX and not MXL as per my other post on another thread on this site
GIH = South Asian ( india)

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YDNA:
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:24 am
Again, the new and improved table, 15.11.2014
Dating top of the tree is still uncertain...
We are waiting for new testing in the haplogroup A00.

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I notice a clear consensus among the relevant points of different haplogroups time table

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:06 am
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Усть-Ишим
There, the river Irtysh (West Siberia), lived the "man from Ust’-Ishim" - 45,000 years bP.
This discovery helps determine by Fu et al. 2014 the live time K2* (50,000 y) and rate of mutation SNP of modern man: 0,76x10-9 mutations per site per year.
This pace allows me to convert the A00 time 338.000 bP (by Mendez) at the time of about 275,000 years bP, which is consistent with my table with the of the spring year (280,000 and 268,000 years bP).
According to Mendez, the mutation rate is [0,439 to 0,707] x10-9per site per year; an average of about 0,617 mutations per site per yaer.
................
The man with the Ust-Ishim is a side branch, detached at the point K2=K(xLT) of conventional vertical Y-Adam-R1a.
I believe, that the people with K2 emigrated from Africa through Central or South Asia towards Southeast Asia.

I also believe that a descendant of the h.group K2* and ancestor of R1a, the haplogroup MP=K2b, lived on the Sundaland.

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Rising sea level after LGM forced most of his descendants, such the Q anad R h.groups , for fast Asian re-emigration.

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YDNA:
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:31 am
Created a further improvement of the table of the haplogroups development time
and major families of the world

(in Polish)
http://www.tropie.tarnow.opoka.org.pl/hg_czas.pdf

or English:
http://www.tropie.tarnow.opoka.org.pl/hg_time.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:09 pm
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:44 am
Important article by Scozzri et al. 2014

http://genome.cshlp.org/content/24/3/535.full
or
http://genome.cshlp.org/content/24/3/535.full.pdf+html
Supplements
http://genome.cshlp.org/content/24/3/535/suppl/DC1

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YDNA:
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MtDNA:
H14a
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:32 pm
New dating of Y-Adam
http://www.tropie.tarnow.opoka.org.pl/hg_time.pdf
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