Doug McDonald BGA results

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:40 pm
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Yorkie wrote:I noticed that Doug does not show Germany or Scandinavia on his PCA scattergram, so I emailed him to ask where I would plot in relation to these places, bearing in mind I am in the English cluster with a pull towards northern France and being of largely Danelaw ancestry. The good Dr McDonald kindly replied that I am 'right at the top of where nominal Germans are, and directly to the left of nominal Swedes'. There is some overlap between these places and England. Again, this seems accurate given my ancestry. I love this guy's work! :D


Interesting! That there is still overlap is quite interesting, and that your in it is very useful as your ancestry is a known factor - I'm guessing therefore that is why there there is a big 'void' in the NW Euro 'blob' on Doug's chart, due to the lack of Germans and Scandinavians.

Kind Regards,
Sam Jackson


Sam,
Doug's positioning of my raw data makes sense of the recent Interpretome results which had me very near to Sweden,Norway, Denmark and Germany. It might be Danelaw influence.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 5:18 am
This is what I got in March of 2011:

He gave two sets of percentiles with this map. One set was between European populations the other set was between Europe and the Middle East.

My most sound scores from the two sets, according to him -

English= 0.670, French= 0.330
alternatively English= 0.940 Jewish= 0.060.

The 67% English, 33% French matches pretty close to my paper genealogy, approx. 75% British Islander (England and Ulster), 25% Continental European (the bulk of this is German but I have one Portuguese lineage aways back).

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:01 pm
Thanks, Barreldriver, that is an interesting result.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:10 pm
What are these possibilities he speaks of below? Are the in combinations of what I may be? I don't quite understand it or the black graphs. Are all those points on the graph things found in my genome? Also barreldriver........where did you get that gray/white map?



A custom fit seems better than the automatic one, so here are
possibilities


English 0.5956 Tuscan 0.2432 Columbian 0.1486 Yoruba 0.0127
Irish 0.4793 Tuscan 0.3653 Columbian 0.1458 Yoruba 0.0096
English 0.1605 French 0.6765 Columbian 0.1495 Yoruba 0.0135
Irish 0.0933 French 0.7447 Columbian 0.1491 Yoruba 0.0129
English 0.5566 Italian 0.2798 Columbian 0.1493 Yoruba 0.0143

The American really does fit Columbian better than any other.
Its not typical Latin American, not typical North American. Perhaps
Caribbean??? The European spot on the geographic map
is clearly too far east.

Doug McDonald


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:13 am
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50% Scottish,German,Irish,+others at small percentages
"The following are possible population sets and their fractions, most likely at the top
English= 0.975 Na-Dene= 0.025 or
English= 0.976 Maya= 0.024 or
English= 0.978 Pima= 0.022 or
English= 0.980 Columbia= 0.020 or
English= 0.976 Eskimo= 0.024 or
English= 0.982 Karitian= 0.018 or
English= 0.982 Surui= 0.018"
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:33 pm
Mine:
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:35 pm
My mother's:
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:59 pm
leonardo wrote:My mother's:


Is your mother of largely English ancestry? She appears to plot similarly, but not exactly, to myself.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:06 pm
Yorkie wrote:
leonardo wrote:My mother's:


Is your mother of largely English ancestry? She appears to plot similarly, but not exactly, to myself.

Hi Yorkie. My mother is about 50% UK and 50% German.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:56 am
leonardo wrote:
Yorkie wrote:
leonardo wrote:My mother's:


Is your mother of largely English ancestry? She appears to plot similarly, but not exactly, to myself.

Hi Yorkie. My mother is about 50% UK and 50% German.


Is she? Right, that makes good sense to me. I imagine that she and I plot similarly because the bulk of my English ancestry is from the eastern, North Sea side of England, hence more Germanic than the western half. That is a nice mixture of ethnicities, English and German. I have always got on well with German people and have 2 good German pals living in England. I think that there are great similarities between both peoples which far outweigh any differences. It is a myth that the Germans lack a sense of humour- on the contrary, they can be highly amusing and often have a very 'dry' wit, similar in fact to Yorkshire people... ;)
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