R-L11 from Caucasus? Ahahahahah


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Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:58 am
R-Y132791 Y132829 * Y132859 * Y132791+18 SNPs formed 4800 ybp, TMRCA 700 ybp
o id:YF12046new
o id:YF11364ARM [AM-ER]

Mher, I wrote a lot about this compatriot of yours [Zohrab], the unique R-L11 found in the Caucasus so far, saying that, just from the history of his family, he was very likely introgressed in Malta Island from some Western European person. Of course Nazi Borkmann deletes my posts at FTDNA but what I said, once more, is puntually demonstrated true.

Peter Zohrab has a question!
April 12 @ 3:07am
YFull now says that my terminal haplogroup has changed from R-S1200* to R-Y132791, but I still have no close match listed. FTDNA says that my haplogroup is R-BY38952. YFull now has an estimated date for my definining mutation: 676 years (unrounded) before the present, which would be 1342 AD. Can anyone please add clarifying comments which interpret the significance of these findings? ”
Adrian Ballard April 14 @ 12:27pm
Hi Peter - According to yFull sample YF11364 compared against sample YF12046 shows a TMRCA for both samples at approx 700 years before present day. these are matched.
Peter Zohrab Yesterday at 9:54am
Hi Adrian, thanks for that, but how can I find YF12046? I can't see any search function anywhere on YFull.
Adrian Ballard Yesterday at 5:57pm
Hi Peter - I have gone to your BIGY test page and found the possible match a Mr Souser - I have sent him an email informing him of the match and asking if he would like to join our project for further study - hope this helps PS - yFull will not give out testers personal details, they are hidden.
Peter Zohrab Yesterday at 7:30pm
Thanks, Adrian! I logged onto YFull again just now and this time it did show my match to R-Y132791, who I assume is Charles Souser (adopted surname) -- his father's surname was Mathews. Christopher Souser manages his DNA tests, but hasn't been replying to emails recently, it seems. Maybe he felt he was getting too many of them!

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MtDNA:
U5b2b
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:40 am
Gioiello wrote:R-Y132791 Y132829 * Y132859 * Y132791+18 SNPs formed 4800 ybp, TMRCA 700 ybp
o id:YF12046new
o id:YF11364ARM [AM-ER]

Mher, I wrote a lot about this compatriot of yours [Zohrab], the unique R-L11 found in the Caucasus so far, saying that, just from the history of his family, he was very likely introgressed in Malta Island from some Western European person. Of course Nazi Borkmann deletes my posts at FTDNA but what I said, once more, is puntually demonstrated true.

Peter Zohrab has a question!
April 12 @ 3:07am
YFull now says that my terminal haplogroup has changed from R-S1200* to R-Y132791, but I still have no close match listed. FTDNA says that my haplogroup is R-BY38952. YFull now has an estimated date for my definining mutation: 676 years (unrounded) before the present, which would be 1342 AD. Can anyone please add clarifying comments which interpret the significance of these findings? ”
Adrian Ballard April 14 @ 12:27pm
Hi Peter - According to yFull sample YF11364 compared against sample YF12046 shows a TMRCA for both samples at approx 700 years before present day. these are matched.
Peter Zohrab Yesterday at 9:54am
Hi Adrian, thanks for that, but how can I find YF12046? I can't see any search function anywhere on YFull.
Adrian Ballard Yesterday at 5:57pm
Hi Peter - I have gone to your BIGY test page and found the possible match a Mr Souser - I have sent him an email informing him of the match and asking if he would like to join our project for further study - hope this helps PS - yFull will not give out testers personal details, they are hidden.
Peter Zohrab Yesterday at 7:30pm
Thanks, Adrian! I logged onto YFull again just now and this time it did show my match to R-Y132791, who I assume is Charles Souser (adopted surname) -- his father's surname was Mathews. Christopher Souser manages his DNA tests, but hasn't been replying to emails recently, it seems. Maybe he felt he was getting too many of them!


Y132791 is downstream of S1200 which is a western European haplogroup. All one has to do is look at the YSTRs for S1200 and the modal is the WAMH. So it is into Armenia not out of it.

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